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  •  Lot of people have been working on that one for (1+ / 0-)
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    decades, mostly through the UN.  Just over 40 countries have stable or declining populations.  A larger group are moving toward stability but aren't there yet (including CHina and the US).  Then there are some countries who still aren't on track to stabilize.  

    The good news is that with good policies (including education for girls and wide access to inexpensive birth control,) population growth rates can change pretty fast.  Iran, under Khomeini in the early 1980's, had a growth rate approaching the biological maximum.  After his death, policies changed dramatically, and by 1993, Iran had one of the lowest growth rates in the developing world.

    I used to read predictions that the world population would peak between 8 and 10 billion (depending on how well we did with control efforts), somewhere between 2040 and 2100, and then begin to decline.  People talked about whether it would be possible to avoid widespread famine, and if so, how.

    Global warming changes that calculus.  THe world is consciously moving toward containing population growth, but I don't think there's much chance now that it'll happen without starvation playing a grim role.

    Population policy remains enormously important. Famine and disease have never been enough.  Europe lost a third of its population in the Black Plague, recouped that astonishingly fast, and kept growing.  Only conscious, intelligent policy works.

    --------------------- “These are troubling times. Corporation are treated like people. People are treated like things. …And if we ever needed to vote, we sure do need to vote now.” -- Rev. Dr. William J. Barber

    by Fiona West on Fri Oct 04, 2013 at 04:18:34 PM PDT

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    •  However starvation isn't so likely... (0+ / 0-)

      When you consider we actually produce sufficient food to feed everyone alive at present with excess and the resources to produce more. Sadly there's a lot of wastage all over the place especially in developed nations like the USA and Australia. Still even if the population issue was gotten under control it's hard to avoid the other aspects of the problem.

      And regarding population growth in post black plague Europe, consider this was the church that still bans contraceptives that played a large part in controlling society's attitudes.

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