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  •  I'm not a big fan of censorship of any kind, (0+ / 0-)

    although in this case, I see the need.  However, I hope it doesn't become a trend.

     Think how insane some other media outlets (outlets that are more right leaning) would become, if they made this decision for their own ideas and positions, and the voice of reason was never allowed to offer commentary and rebuttal to the rants of the baggers.  Sometimes we have to do this on a regular basis on comment sections of social media and the papers to counter things such as "Obamacare death panels" and other such idiocies.

    •  What? (4+ / 0-)
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      Think how insane some other media outlets (outlets that are more right leaning) would become, if they made this decision for their own ideas and positions, and the voice of reason was never allowed to offer commentary and rebuttal to the rants of the baggers.
      Have you bothered reading them lately?

      That's exactly how they already operate.

      * "Power attracts the corruptible. Suspect all who seek it." - Frank Herbert * (-8.88; -9.23)

      by Selphinea on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 04:33:51 PM PDT

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    •  Let me simply repeat the editor's quote (4+ / 0-)
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      Saying 'there's no sign humans have caused climate change' is not stating an opinion, it's asserting a factual inaccuracy.
      It's the media's job to convey facts, not factual inaccuracies.  So, no, I'm not in favor of censoring opinions, except where the facts are so overwhelmingly against such an opinion that it is obviously false -- in which case, publishing it will convey falsehoods to others, rather than promoting truth.  

      If an editor chooses not to print letters vociferously claiming that the sun revolves around the earth, or that the moon landing was a hoax, or that HIV has nothing to do with AIDs, I don't personally consider that censorship, any more than, say, correcting spelling errors would be.  

      Freedom is the freedom to say two plus two make four.  If that is granted, all else follows. -- George Orwell, 1984. Now on Twitter.

      by kindler on Sat Oct 12, 2013 at 04:50:18 PM PDT

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      •  I'm talking comments. If they are choosing not to (0+ / 0-)

        place articles in their papers that say such nonsense, I get that.  However, if they are talking that they specifically go through the comment sections and deleting all comments that they don't agree with and just because they don't like what they are saying, then I have a problem with that.  It's censorship and should not be a part of a free media.   My issue is not because I don't agree with their take on this issue, obviously I do agree with this issue,  but it is the censorship idea that I have a problem with.  

        If this becomes a wide spread trend, then what is to stop another source from deleting all "pro-ACA" comments or deleting all "socialist" viewpoints, or deleting all "pro choice" or "anti Christian" viewpoint etc. etc.  

        Some of us do spend time and energy refuting nonsense on the comment sections of social media or news sources, because if we didn't, there would be nothing but 5000 comments from the mind of "Bubba the car mechanic" who is holed up in his mom's basement but yet knows all there is to tell about politics and how "Obama the Muslim" is ruining the country.   If there was never a counter claim, then Mr. and Mrs. Smith (faithful voters no doubt, but still ignorant of anything political) would only see Bubba's commentary and 4999 of his like minded friends.   Hopefully, Mr. and Mrs. Smith will see one of our factual comments and go and research a bit and see for themselves.  

         However, if this becomes acceptable to simply censor comments, then it won't take a moment for right leaning news sources to do likewise and with the public's blessing.   At least now it is somewhat taboo for the news to censor out in the open, and to announce it to everybody, even if we know it is still done to a point because we are politically in tune.  I just don't want it to become commonplace and/or an acceptable, out in the open, everyday practice.

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