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  •  two points intersecting (11+ / 0-)

    when you refer to Reconstruction/ Jim Crow,

    It stalled out in culture 2.5 when the South created its nation within a nation of Jim Crow racial segregation; yet, throughout the rest of the country we moved into culture 3.0, which was remarkably similar to the culture of today
    that is a very important point. We as a nation allowed this to happen. a Grand Bargain with the defeated racists and secessionists, as it were. This allowed them to pretend they had their precious racist culture intact, as in most ways it was.
    so this;
    the rest of us are sick as well - we're enablers, co-dependent, adult children of conservatives recreating unhealthy patterns again and again.
    is the lesson to be learned from it. You mention party dysfunction, but a long time peeve of mine on this very site has been the diaries abut that assh*le family member spewing RW trash talk on Facebook or whatever, and the reluctance of others to shut him the f*ck UP. Every example of 'letting it slide', 'keeping the peace', or any other excuse is just that. An excuse. Enabling. It's time to stop. If you would stop that person from hitting a child, or spewing racist or sexist epithets, then you must stop this behavior as well. Political views and religious views are not sacred to anyone but the holder of those views. When they are hurtful and hateful, oppose them vocally and loudly. That is a critical civic duty that has been grossly neglected by our side. We are approaching a time when the desperation of the Right will be beyond all hope of calming, and they have a proven affinity for violence. We have been there before. And because we couldn't bring ourselves as a nation to really deal with the true ramifications of slaveholding, we have allowed the Civil War, always an armistice and never resolved, to begin to flare back up.
    When people talk of 'bipartisanship' they are really debating the 3/5ths rule with slave owners. The Confederacy needs to understand that it lost. Forever and always, it lost.

    Last full month in which the average daily temperature did not exceed twentieth-century norms: 2/1985 - Harper's Index, 2/2013

    by kamarvt on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 06:21:51 AM PDT

    •  re Civil War revanchism (9+ / 0-)

      They know full well that they lost, and their frustration comes from the fact that they can't shake off the shame of it, because they aren't equipped with the ethics or the backbone to stand and admit the horror and terror of what their avowed forebears imposed on other people.  

      The TP has always angled for an opportunity to return to their deep roots and claim that the Union victory was actually violation of the Constitution.  Now that the last hinge has broken, we might see it surface in the weeks ahead.  Rick Perry and Sharon Angle were already test-driving the meme last year.  

    •  On the other hand, (2+ / 0-)
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      third Party please, Rosebuddear

      the south voted solidly Democratic for a long time while radical Republican types emerged from the North.  In 1958 the great journalist Harry Golden could write in Only in America: "Here in the South, a Senator McCarthy couldn't be elected to the town council." (p. 229)

      The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right. -- Judge Learned Hand, May 21, 1944

      by ybruti on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 11:48:25 AM PDT

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    •  they get slapped down constantly everywhere (3+ / 0-)
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      Rosebuddear, potatohead, Larsstephens

      look at any comments section on any news site including this one.

      and thus their twisted belief that it is they who are

      suffering intolerance at the hands of people who proclaim tolerance as a virtue, that's what they're doing - they're excluding people who they experience as excluding them.
      Sadly slapping them down and calling them out, showing them their wrong thinking and false beliefs only confirms their belief they are the victims and the country, the culture, the world, is in a mass conspiracy to destroy them and their way of life. It does not penetrate or cause them to reevaluate. It causes them to sputter and rage and then to become violent and fight harder to preserve their vision of their world.

      I got nothing. I've been trying to find a way to get through to them forever.

      How do we fight them? How do we beat them back?

      no man is completely worthless, he can always be used as a bad example.

      by srfRantz on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 04:56:48 AM PDT

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      •  I think we just grow past them. (0+ / 0-)

        There isn't any clear answer to that problem.

        Sometimes, life experience works.  They have something happen, reality isn't to be denied, and they break through and can move forward.

        Often, this doesn't happen for them, and they solidify, get rigid and there is little to be done.

        That means it's more about the up and coming generations than it is anything else.  They have not yet solidified and they can see the arc of progress and get aligned with it.

        Eventually, we all age out and for these hard core types, doing that means diminishing numbers, if we do well on advocacy and policy.  

        ***Be Excellent To One Another***
        IF THEY ARE GOING TO SCREW THE PEOPLE, MAKE THEM OWN IT.

        by potatohead on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 03:22:20 PM PDT

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