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  •  Texas would've already been ours (12+ / 0-)

    had Obama not thrown Howard Dean and his 50 state strategy under the bus after his election and installed milktoast Tim Kaine as head of the DNC. The state parties have not been getting the support they need to take out the GOP in Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina, Michigan, etc, and as a result it's led to redistricting that has favored Republicans running for the house which has led to gridlock and government shutdown in congress and wingnut laws overrunning blue states. Many of us (including Kos) saw this years ago. Oh well... no use in bitching about what coulda been.

    The point is: when you're in a hole stop digging. If we give up Texas where do we stop? We need to face these bastards down in every state and fight them for every inch. If they want to keep Texas at the very least we need to make them sweat hard for it. We're going to need more than demographics. We need to have fight and the burning desire to win.

    "Take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Wiesel

    by Jason Hackman on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 10:33:49 AM PDT

    •  If you look at my join date in profile (11+ / 0-)

      you will see I joined Daily Kos in October 2005. I was a Deaniac, through and through. I am still sensitive about it. They really fucked up when the Brooks Brothers boys at DNC threw nHoward under the bus. 50 state strategy was revolutionary, and it did pay dividends. We would not have a President Obama without it. And Obama knows it (or he should).

    •  Uh, Obama contested and won IN and NC (5+ / 0-)

      in 2008.  That's not throwing to 50 state strategy under the bus.  There is a finite amount of money and it needs to go where it will do the most good.  I'm all for turning TX blue.

      tell mr. godot I'm walking the dog

      by chicago minx on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 10:45:15 AM PDT

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      •  Exactly. We forget his early vist to the Dakotas (3+ / 0-)
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        ...and how close he came in Montana in 08. There just wasn't enough money to play harder in Texas, Georgia, and Arizona.

        Of course many of the people claim to like the strategy but then complain because they do not like the results as it means more conservative Democrats from more conservative districts and states.

        In 2016 we need a nominee who can expand the Obama map. No more going back to sweating out having to win Ohio and/or Florida.

        The politicians may be bought, and the system corrupt, but it is our duty to fix these things.

        by sebastianguy99 on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 11:04:42 AM PDT

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      •  History fail. (2+ / 0-)
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        As chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Mr. Dean pressed the party to expand its efforts and set up offices in all 50 states, arguing that the party was making a mistake in effectively ceding states to the Republican Party. That position led him into some famously pointed clashes with Representative Rahm Emanuel of Illinois, who at the time headed the Democratic Congressional Campaign, and who was angry that Mr. Dean was not sending money he had raised to help in Democratic efforts to take back Congress.

        Mr. Emanuel was appointed by Mr. Obama last week as the White House chief of staff.

        Politics means controlling the balance of economic and institutional power. Everything else is naming post offices.

        by happymisanthropy on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 12:03:23 PM PDT

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      •  Believe it or not (0+ / 0-)

        it's not all about Obama. If it was the state Democratic Parties wouldn't be falling apart with him in the White House.

        "Take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Wiesel

        by Jason Hackman on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 10:51:16 PM PDT

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        •  Yes, it's not like state democratic parties should (0+ / 0-)

          actually be accountable for the failures of their own making

          Barack Obama for President '12

          by v2aggie2 on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 11:49:11 PM PDT

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          •  The failure of the state parties (0+ / 0-)

            is the failure of the national party, as we see with the enactment of abortion and voter suppression laws, the refusal of the Obamacare medicaid expansion at the state level, and the election of hard right conservatives to the House. Do you think the nuttiest of the nuts in the house would have got elected if they faced a stiff challenge from an even partially funded Democrat? What would that even cost? 50k-100k per candidate? Small change when you consider that it would shift the national dialogue to the left and would result in a government the president could actually deal with. That is why it's important for the DNC to spread the money around the election map and not just play defense by flooding money into "winnable states".

            Didn't see much of a difference in how the DNC was run under Dean? I did. The wave election of 2006 and the re-taking of the White House in 2008.

            "Take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented." - Elie Wiesel

            by Jason Hackman on Mon Oct 14, 2013 at 07:26:56 AM PDT

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    •  As someone who lives here (0+ / 0-)

      that is not true

      Barack Obama for President '12

      by v2aggie2 on Sun Oct 13, 2013 at 05:49:04 PM PDT

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