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  •  They Said It; They Own It (6+ / 0-)

    If it's not what they meant, put them on the spot to explain what they did mean. It's a truism of politics that if you're explaining, you're losing; don't let them off the hook.

    On the Internet, nobody knows if you're a dog... but everybody knows if you're a jackass.

    by stevemb on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 02:45:57 PM PDT

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    •  Here it is in a sentence: (3+ / 0-)
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      caul, hungeski, cotterperson

      In his essay, Civic Virtue and Western Civilization
      by William H. Young (Dec 01, 2011 for the National Association of Scholars),

      "The failure of classical republics due to internal dissent and factions coupled with this recent colonial experience led the Founders, notably Madison, to create a republican Constitution based primarily on the principles of Lockean liberalism. In that view, man is essentially a materialist who has natural rights, but unites with others in a community in order to preserve individual liberty, private property, and pursuit of self-interest through a strictly limited representative government of delegated authority. Each individual consents to be governed by a popular majority and to abide by its determinations."

      West. No further west. All sea. --Robert Grenier

      by Nicolas Fouquet on Sat Nov 02, 2013 at 10:03:49 PM PDT

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    •  They really do mean it. They always have. (2+ / 0-)
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      Ideologically the Kochs and the Teabaggers are Birchers, and the Birchers had always insisted "This is a republic, not a democracy-- and let's keep it that way." In other words, they favor a timocratic republic in which voting and representation are limited by property qualifications.

      They may not be able to achieve timocracy juridically by amending the Constitution, but they're quite aware they can achieve it conditionally by gerrymandering, voter harassment, vote suppression, and above all by corrupting campaigns with infusions of big money. The Citizens United decision makes it easy to combat democracy and promote timocracy.

      "Limited representative government": they are much less interested in limiting the power of government than in limiting who government can represent.

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