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    struck me as his making clear that he doesn't like the focus on snowden/greenwald, but does think the nsa spying is important. i have no idea where the white privilege part came from, but this seems to contradict it. the bottom line is that one off-hand comment, which he quickly clarified, has become a sort of totem to his critics. i would hate if every off-hand comment i made held such totemic power.

    and the other bottom line is that the blog he owns continues to cover the nsa scandal, and i don't recall one front page post that has defended the spying or those excusing it, while there have been plenty of posts that have been sharply critical of the spying.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 08:58:48 AM PST

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    •  It was, at best, disingenuous. (5+ / 0-)

      How do you discuss the NSA spying without discussing the, ermm, rather extraordinary actions taken by the worldwide security apparatus to apprehend Snowden, for instance? or Greenwald's partner?

      You can't.

      I was actually pulling several punches in my comments about the site leader.  Maybe next time I won't.

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      by corvo on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 09:24:55 AM PST

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        was almost a month to the day before miranda was detained. but even the attempts to catch snowden have been a distraction. they are trivial compared to the story itself.

        i've been saying all along that i want snowden to get asylum (and it would be nice if germany also offered it), and for him to then largely disappear from public view, so everyone can focus on the real story. since he left the airport, for the most part that's happened.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 09:38:13 AM PST

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        •  and interest in the story has, (7+ / 0-)

          mirabile dictu, dissipated considerably ever since the Names of Scandal have disappeared from the news.

          Big surprise!  Most people deal more comfortably with personalities than with issues.  And in order to effect real change here, we need real personalities.  That's simply the way the world works: People vote for the presidential candidate who doesn't sweat on stage, not for the one who promises intelligent and thoughtful SCOTUS nominees, for instance.

          Finally, and as an aside, the worst thing that could happen to Snowden would be for him to accept a German offer of asylum.  He'd be in an American black site within hours, with the full cooperation of the German government.  Surely you know that.

          Dogs from the street can have all the desirable qualities that one could want from pet dogs. Most adopted stray dogs are usually humble and exceptionally faithful to their owners as if they are grateful for this kindness. -- H.M. Bhumibol Adulyadej

          by corvo on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 10:12:05 AM PST

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    •  I completely accept your second bottom line, and I (3+ / 0-)
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      would not remain a member of a blog that acted otherwise. About that first bottom line, it wasn't an off-hand comment. It was a reply to a question, very early in a "Ask me anything about Daily Kos" diary, and the rest of the thread discussed that reply. If it was an off-hand remark Kos had plenty of chances to say so. He never did. Until he does at least that, some of us will persist in thinking that horse alive and well.

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      by davidincleveland on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 10:14:57 AM PST

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