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  •  You won't get far with that line of thought (5+ / 0-)

    with most of those folks, because the whole "obligation of individuals" argument is by & large a smokescreen for

    I get to decide who deserves to get my charity, not a buncha bureaucrats who steal it from me in taxes & then hand it to whoever they please to buy their votes!
    And of course those "deserving poor" always seem to have a few key demographic characteristics (e.g., same skin color, same religion, same ethnic group, same first language) & (maybe most importantly) show subservience & gratitude to their benefactors.

    After all, [snarcasm] what the hell is the point of giving your hard-earned (for the 1%, hardly-earned) ca$h away if you can't use it to force the recipients to acknowledge your moral (as well as fiscal) superiority & thereby your right to have power over their lives? [/snarcasm]

    The greatest trick the GOP ever played was convincing the devil they had a soul to sell.

    by Uncle Cosmo on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 05:32:24 AM PST

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    •  Well, as I said in the follow-up comment, (2+ / 0-)
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      (though it had other drawbacks I won't go into now).
      Private charity can have those short-comings; it doesn't always, anymore than government welfare programs are always depersonalized and bureaucratic.

      Is it true? Is it kind? Is it necessary? . . . and respect the dignity of every human being.

      by Wee Mama on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 06:01:24 AM PST

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    •  Exactly my objection to charity replacing (0+ / 0-)

      government help.

      "The poor can never be made to suffer enough." Jimmy Breslin

      by merrywidow on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 06:22:14 AM PST

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    •  Yes, the charity of old (1+ / 0-)
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      was never enough thus we had to go to a nationwide system put in place and run by the government with no discrimination or caveats.  Government aid had to be instituted because private charity falls short.  Private charity can never cover the needs in any significant way. Helps on an individual basis only.

      Everyone! Arms akimbo! 68351

      by tobendaro on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 06:33:22 AM PST

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      •  There's a scene in the Woody Guthrie (1+ / 0-)
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        biopic where David Carradine asks a preacher for some food, and he replies that he can't give him any because it would only discourage him from working, or something along those lines. This was a 70's movie about the 1930's. Yet here we are still hearing the same crap from the right....

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