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  •  In Illinois people usually have basements (9+ / 0-)

    Unlike Oklahoma, where far too many don't even have a small storm shelter. I'm appalled that the schools don't have shelters either. What kind of government does that to their children?

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    by splashy on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 08:55:00 AM PST

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    •  I live in St. Louis and just bought a house (8+ / 0-)

      In the course of home shopping, I was shocked at the number of homes that didn't have basements despite us being in tornado alley.

      Fortunately, the house I bought does have a basement, a finished one no less, so I can be relaxed in my recliner playing my PlayStation 4 as my house is destroyed.

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      by yg17 on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 08:59:19 AM PST

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    •  Lots of cheap subdivisions don't (5+ / 0-)

      My inlaws are in a cheap tract housing neighborhood.  The house is on a slab and if a tornado like this ever hit them I fear they'd all be dead.  It's just a 3 bedroom ranch, nowhere to really find shelter.

      I would never buy a house without a basement.  And it's the cheapest room to build.  I can't believe developers were allowed to get away with that degree of corner cutting.

      •  Sometimes it is about the geologic structure (4+ / 0-)

        of the land (or whatever you'd call it) that prevents basements from being built. Or a high water table. But a safe room: good to have.

      •  It usually has to do with the frost line and (0+ / 0-)

        money. In the northern states the frost line is at 36" below grade so it makes sense to put in a basement. When you start getting into southern states a basement isn't "practical."

      •  I'm in what used to be a cove (0+ / 0-)

        going into a valley next to Heartbreak Ridge, which runs all the way to Pinnacle, next to Mount Mitchell in the Black Brothers. Highest mountains east of the Mississippi. Cove got cut off over a hundred years ago with a 'wall' that was considered one of the Wonders of the World for awhile - NS rail grade over the continental divide, it's more than 200 feet tall and wide enough to carry a passing set of 'loops' - like a hundred yards or more.

        The cabin's just as old, was originally sawmill for back when it was just trestle (later destroyed by a flood from the high country, so they blasted some rock and replaced it with that). Have a half-basement where the bathroom is. Fully earth-sheltered on three sides, open ground-level to the back - toward the wall. If things get really gnarly, I hide in the bathtub.

        And we have had a few tornadoes come up the valley over the 20 years we've lived here. One hit the wall head-on and leapt over us to the ridge. A twister would literally have to drop on top of us to get us, but having grown up in Oklahoma, you get pretty philosophical about such things. I like it much better here!

      •  I live by the water - "Sandy Country" (0+ / 0-)

        a basement here is a real liability. I don't have one, thankfully I'm on a crawl space. But some of my neighbors do. They were old, old houses that were built at a time when you didn't build a house without a basement. Well, now they're all being filled in. Flood insurance doesn't cover any part of the house below grade (or outside the house either.) Anyone here with a basement during Sandy wound up with an indoor swimming pool - and not in a good way. So, if we had a tornado here - I don't know what we'd all do - get in the bathtub with a mattress?

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