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  •  My point is, (6+ / 0-)

    if the perp did shoot himself somehow, that hardly absolves the cop. You'd think other cops would be very worried about riding with that guy, if he sucks so bad at arresting people that his perp can fire a gun in the cop car. That is, if they really believe the cop's story.

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    by Code Monkey on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 10:21:44 PM PST

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    •  oh definitely (3+ / 0-)
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      I can't speak for that department but of the departments I do know some of the rules for said cop would be looking at anything from being fired to desk duty.

      More over while I don't know if the cop was looking at advancing to detective or sargent but again any suchdreams would either be badly side tracked or just plain gone.

      To me the most important thing is to just have an open investigation and go from there. It's not about believing one or the other. But yeah I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if that officer regardless of the outcome faces a disciplinary board. I know other officers have for missing far less dangerous things in an initial search.

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      by duhban on Fri Nov 22, 2013 at 10:30:59 PM PST

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    •  that part is true. (0+ / 0-)

      but, things happen.

      someone has him on the hood, and the other officer cuffs him, thinking he's been searched.

      Look, early this week, a Boeing 747-Dreamlifter
      landed at the WRONG airport.  

      professional pilots, they had ONE job. What happened?

      i suspect they are cashiered, but, pilot is a pure procedural
      job and they screwed up and  damn near lost the cargo plane.

      almost every airplane crash ties to human error, and these
      are highly trained professionals.

      so, before we start the riot, let's just see what happened.

    •  I have a buddy that had just graduated (0+ / 0-)

      from the police academy. He was justifiably proud.

      During a BS session, the subject of searching a suspect arose. So, I had him search me.
      He noticed my Gerber knife on my belt and removed it from its pouch. He noticed my carabiner on my belt and removed it, with the keys hanging from it.
      He missed something inside my belt, nestled around where the knife pouch was.
      A full size M1911A1 pistol. You know, the old Army .45 caliber pistol.

      He learned that day, I hope it saves his life someday.

      Mistakes happen. That said, I have absolutely no idea how one shoots oneself to death  while handcuffed. The firearm would, by anatomical requirements, be pointed away from the vast majority of vital areas. Even to strike a renal artery should be impossible. To strike the lower aorta should be astoundingly difficult. To strike a femoral artery branch insanely improbable.
      It'd be far more likely to shoot oneself in the ass at worst case.
      While that might cause major brain damage to a politician, it would only be an annoying injury for the average citizen.

      Still, that is what investigations are for. To figure out exactly what happened.
      Then, to learn and apply lessons learned.
      It's just a damned shame that a lesson had to be learned at the cost of a human life.

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