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  •  Let's see. I can prove beyond reasonable doubt (0+ / 0-)

    that the premise of your post is faulty.  Notice the opening paragraph of the diary:

    Have you heard the saying "thou doth protest too much?"  Here's the actual urban dictionary definition: Overly insistent about something, to the point where the opposite is most likely true.
    Here's the link of he Urban Dictionary entry:
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/...

    Now, do you know why I specifically wrote that I was using the quote in the context in which the Urban Dictionary uses it?  Take a wild guess... Because I knew the Shakespeare reference and I wanted to make sure I was using a different context...

    Look at the context: Overly insistent about something, to the point where the opposite is most likely true.

    And do you know why that definition is in the Urban Dictionary?  It makes reference to the fact that sometimes a good sign to determine whether someone is a bad actor (i.e., acting in bad faith) is when that person "protests too much" when their actions are called into question.

    How are we doing with the logic?  Hopefully, we're keeping up...

    Now, notice something.  Here (once again), you first erroneously point out that I wasn't even aware of the meaning of the quote I used... You construct the attack one step at a time, carefully.  You first take a dig by writing that "Ray doesn't read Shakespeare." Right?

    Then you go on to assert that since I'm allegedly misusing and misunderstanding a famous Shakespeare's quote, the rest of my citations are questionable:

    But if that quote isn't cited properly, or in context (and it wasn't), then what does that say about the rest of Ray's cites?
    And then you go for (what you think is the) coup de grace:
    It's relevant, and it's crucial. It speaks to the integrity of the diarist. If he cannot, in an area which is common for his audience, be bothered to get his citations correct, or show their relevance correctly, what can we infer about those citations in areas which are not common knowledge?
    I've mentioned before (because of the multiple times you keep doing this in my diaries) that it seems to me that you are trying to malign my character.  In a recent diary you made allusions about me being paranoid.  In this one you question my integrity based on what you erroneously identify my failure to understand a quote.

    Finally, and again, after I've asked you this question dozens of times: Why do you keep clicking on to my diaries and posting several messages trying to malign my character?

    In this very diary you've posted several messages (way more than me--think about that).

    You've answered that you keep visiting my diaries and posting these types of messages because you are fascinated by me.

    And I've said that I find that fascination kind of creepy, given the fact that you have gone as far as to track down diaries I've unpublished and post links to them in unrelated diaries' threads.

    Again, why so much interest?  How many times have I visited a commented in your diaries.  I think once, right?

    It is up to you... If you have such bad opinion of my writing and my character, it seems to me that you would avoid clicking on to my diaries.  I think that what reasonable people do here, mostly.

    But if you continue visiting my diaries and posting these types of messages, then it is you who end up looking bad.

    •  Ah. I will remember: The Urban Dictionary (0+ / 0-)

      trumps Shakespeare.

      Score one for HumptyDumptyisms.

      “When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.’

      ’The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean so many different things.’

      ’The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master — that’s all.”

      Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass

      At least half the future I've been expecting hasn't gotten here yet. Sigh.... (Yes, there's gender bias in my name; no, I wasn't thinking about it when I signed up. My apologies.)

      by serendipityisabitch on Tue Nov 26, 2013 at 12:15:11 PM PST

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      •  That's kind of bizarre, don't you think? Is that (0+ / 0-)

        your answer?  Is that really your take from what I wrote: that I'm saying that the urban dictionary trumps Shakespeare, or is that just a way to avoid admitting you were wrong?  Weren't we talking about integrity?  You were questioning mine, weren't you?

        Let me try this... Do you still stand by what you wrote:

        But if that quote isn't cited properly, or in context (and it wasn't), then what does that say about the rest of Ray's cites?
        It's relevant, and it's crucial. It speaks to the integrity of the diarist. If he cannot, in an area which is common for his audience, be bothered to get his citations correct, or show their relevance correctly, what can we infer about those citations in areas which are not common knowledge?
        Or were you in error?  Could you answer that question directly?

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