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  •  Am I a conspiracy theorist? (1+ / 0-)
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    newliberl

    I honestly don't know the answer to that question.

    Was the entire security apparatus of the US blindsided by 9/11? Clearly it was. Were the towers brought down by explosives? Only in the sense that both planes were aerial bombs.

    But, did "certain elements of the government" - including Bush and Cheney - "know the attacks were coming and deliberately let them happen"? Given all the hair-on-fire warnings they ignored, given their eagerness for an excuse, any excuse, to start a war in Iraq, I had to wonder from the beginning.

    But what made me a maybe-depending-on-your-definition conspiracy theorist was the footage in Fahrenheit 911 of Dubya in that Florida classroom when the news was brought to him. That deer in the headlights look. It might simply have meant that he suddenly realized he was totally out of his depth. But I've always been inclined to think it meant, "I was waiting for a hijacking, maybe a downed plane somewhere. Just enough to launch my war on. Nobody told me to expect THIS."

    Where that leaves me on the spectrum from gullible conventional wisdom to full blown Alex Jones nuttery, I really don't know. I guess my saving grace is that I know perfectly well my theory is only a best guess, and it could be wrong.

    Sigh. It's probably wrong even to post this comment. It could open a completely unproductive thread. If you want to hide rec me, believe me, I'll understand. But I imagine I have company here, out on my short limb.

    •  Yes.... Yes you are. But... (0+ / 0-)

      ... I do not mean that in the "shut up you vile scum!" sort of way. I mean it in the "I understand how our brains are designed to seek causality where there may not be any" sort of way.

      Bush and Cheney 'allowed' it to happen through smug hubris and staggering incompetence. They did not pull back the velvet rope and hand out airplane seat assignments to the hijackers. Nor did they 'know' that attacks were coming any more than we know that some inbred, racist douchebag is going to take a pot shot at the first black president. IOW, sure, they'd love to do it but we don't know anything about who or what or where or when.

      We all have dark moments of the soul when we allow our lesser selves to dream up the motives of our enemies and connect dots with malice that are, in reality, only connected by incompetence. Those moments are best kept to ourselves and not spread on public message boards. A post such as yours is not bankable but if you were to try to move others to these unsupportable beliefs then it would deserve a HideRate.

      Please do not be alarmed. We are about to engage... the nozzle.

      by Terrapin on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 07:56:48 AM PST

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    •  Only a fool admits no doubt (1+ / 0-)
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      SueDe

      I think you're wrong, but not wrong to doubt.

      quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- Juvenal VI, 347-8

      by golem on Sun Nov 24, 2013 at 08:33:12 AM PST

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    •  I call it the "Reservoir Dogs" theory. (0+ / 0-)

      If you recall the film, an undercover cop infiltrates a gang of robbers planning a jewelry heist, with orders to let their plot develop so as to allow LAPD to catch them in the act.
      But it goes horribly wrong.

      The W Admin. knew that something was up, and were thrown a "curve" with the deliberate crashing of the aircraft.

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