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  •  Laws get changed because (5+ / 0-)

    People like you and me and him, and many more of us "sit around and complain about it". More and more people pick up on it and complain.  We organize walk-outs, and rallies and petitions.  Without the complaining, you short circuit the entire process, and the necessary change never happens.  Rules don't change themselves.  Nobody expects change to happen overnight.  People have been protesting Walmart since the 1980's, too.  At lat we're beginning to see some movement towards change.  And the nature of change is that it starts slow and gatherers momentum.  I expect that in another few years we will reach a tipping point and get at least some of the change we're demanding.  Unless we all listen to you tell us that its useless to complain.  

    •  I'll tell you what I see changing- (4+ / 0-)

      I now hear Republicans and especially Libertarians complain about Walmart. They've suddenly caught on to the fact that Walmart's refusal to pay a living wage is costing them money.

      When Walmart workers need food assistance and medicaid and housing subsidies, and when those things are paid for with the sacred "my tax dollars", the role of Walmart in screwing things up becomes finally apparent to them.

      I've had several Libertarian family members come to the conclusion that we should raise the minimum wage because of this, and I don't much care that their reasons are not my reasons, I'm just glad they came to that conclusion.

      •  most libertarians I know are very rich, inheritors (0+ / 0-)

        they look down their nose at Walmart because poor people go there and work there. I'm sure their motivations are nothing like those libertarians you know.

        “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

        by ban nock on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 06:35:07 PM PST

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    •  I'd just like to see more than complaining (0+ / 0-)

      I'd like to see a minimum wage that matches productivity.

      “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

      by ban nock on Sat Nov 30, 2013 at 06:32:33 PM PST

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      •  I'm pretty sure you won't have seen (1+ / 0-)
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        Anyone here  suggesting that just complaining is the answer. Most of us agree that a hike in the minimum wage is a necessary part of fixing the Walmart problem.  I'm not real sure just what it is that you're driving at.  Are you complaining that there's too much, or not enough complaining?  Are you suggesting that change is too fast, or too slow?  The only thing that comes through in your comments is that you think we're doing it wrong.  A little positivity and helpfulness might be more effective.

        •  It's too slow and I've been waiting all my life (0+ / 0-)

          it never seems to happen, I've lost hope change is coming.

          It started with Reagan and even though the economy picked up under Clinton things still headed in a bad direction for those of us working on the south side of middle class and the safety net got holes in it. With bush we dug ourselves such a deep hole economically that I was sure they'd have to raise taxes to get us out but no, we just cut services.

          Obama brought health care but I don't see any relief for people working the Walmart economy. It has spread throughout a large portion of our population. We don't make anything, there are no jobs that pay worth a damn.

          “Conservation… is a positive exercise of skill and insight, not merely a negative exercise of abstinence and caution…” Aldo Leopold

          by ban nock on Sun Dec 01, 2013 at 06:48:30 AM PST

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