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  •  um, yeah, I'd be fine with that (1+ / 0-)
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    Fieldswithoutfences
    Do you want to copy those other countries by limiting civilian access to guns the way they do?
    Um, yeah, I'd be fine with that given it was an actual reality... oh, wait it was, like when the Brady bill was in effect and certain automatic weaposn were banned, up until somwone who shares your views, George W. Bush let the law lapse... so, yeah kinda been there done that on the whole "limiting civilian access" to guns thing, and it worked rather well until it was let lapse, except for you "gun enthusiasts", that musta really smart, huh? Still butt hurt over that, are we? That's why you feel you need to "get even" we the geeks of the video game crowd, "an eye for an eye", some kinda sick twisted logic that if you have to loose you "toys" over people have to, despite there only being a reason for you guys to do so?

    So, yeah, with people like you and your talk, its pretty obvjious you really don't give a shit about the false rhetoric you people put out against "violence" in media (more like gun porn, if you ask me,), this is all about you poor souls feeling all butt hurt and feeling screwed over and trying to find the weaker group of people to try to screw over. You've pretty much just admited to this right here, as did quite a few people commenting on this diary... ah, poor gun enthusiasts you down trodden people, .... booohoooo-hooooo...

    Or do you want to preserve our unique gun culture
    No, I don't, I really don't though it kinda seems your next comment against video games, uh... don't games with realistic firearms "preserve your unique gun culture"?
    eliminating the violence pornography
    don't you mean gun pornography? You'd rather "preserve you gun culture" while at the asame time try to eliminate theat very same culture in the virtual world? Oh, second amendment rights apparently don't spread to viitrual people, I guess, or you don't support fully the seond amendment one could argue.
    •  I like to argue too (1+ / 0-)
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      Mike Kahlow

      But it's kind of funny that I'm getting raged on here for being a gun fanboy, when in fact just last week I was getting raged on by the RKBA group for being a second-amendment-violator. Really, I promise, when I asked people to choose between our unique gun culture and the right to entertain ourselves with insane violence porn, I wasn't hoping that people would choose the guns. I myself spend a large percentage of my free time playing games like Oblivion. Since I don't own any medieval edged weapons, I'm confident that the strange ideas it puts in my head won't turn into inappropriate actions in the real world. :)

      •  Perhaps its the way you frame your arguements. (1+ / 0-)
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        Fieldswithoutfences

        Which, if i may speak frankly, seems now that you added this information in the mix, like your kinda doing that on purpose, like you are purposely trying to get both sides of an argument to "rage" against you by framing it more towards one way with one crownd than with another. Why exactly you would be doing that other than like you said, you like to argue, I don't know, but even so, you're still suing the frame that anti-video game proponents or movies, etc, use by using terms like "violence porn"... you don't see, as a gamer you claim to be, how inflamtory this term is? Really?

        Again, and hey, this is where I'm guaranteeing I will get aged on, possibly even by you, but if you ask me, the term "violence porn" does fit perfectly with that piece of literature, the bible, though. No one piece of media has done more killing in the human race than that one single text. This will no doubt get me raged upon for sure. But it true, and raging me on that doesn't make it any less true.

        •  Pro-porn people also call porn porn. (0+ / 0-)

          I'm not trying to get anyone to rage at me. I was trying to point out the hypocrisy of saying that you can't blame violent video games, because they watch them in Japan without being inspired to shoot lots of schoolkids, without mentioning that Japan differs from the US in having some of the strictest gun control laws in the world. To argue that video games don't cause people to shoot other people because in a society where it's almost impossible to get ahold of a gun, people who play video games don't shoot people, is simply absurd.

          •  I was follwing you and you had me until the (1+ / 0-)
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            last part or your reply.

            To argue that video games don't cause people to shoot other people because in a society where it's almost impossible to get ahold of a gun, people who play video games don't shoot people, is simply absurd.
            yeah, uh, no, what you just said here is absurd, and here's why:
            without mentioning that Japan differs from the US in having some of the strictest gun control laws in the world
            That's kinda the point, what don''t you get about that, you are making the point that we are that it's about the guns!!!!

            Stricter gun ccontrol laws leads to less gun violence, comprende?

            That is why we are calling for stricter gun control, the games have nothing to this and are a red herring, and if you have an argument that runs contrary with facts to back it up, have at it, and make that case.

            It's weird because you seemed to be really confused on this being that you are claiming that you are a gamer, and play violent games like Elder scrolls games, and yet you insist that those games are fine because you don't have swords or simular things in your house? Alot of people do, I know many people who have various japanese swords, european, but any cutlery,like knives would do, and guess what, violent video games in either US, Japan or elsewhere aren't driving people to mass stabbings.

            So if you want to claim a link then have at it and make your best case, but so far, you haven't made much oif a case at all other than claiming something is absurd simply because you believe in the opposite.

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