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  •  How do you disarm a sex offender? (1+ / 0-)
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    Would you release a rapist from prison if you thought he was very likely to rape again?  

    Would you release a murderer if you though he would kill again?  Or would you deny parole?

    If they can't be trusted, they shouldn't be released. It's that simple. Keep in jail anyone who can't be trusted to own a gun.  Safer than trying to forever police a black market in guns. How's the war on drugs working out for you?

    •  Jail anyone who can't be (4+ / 0-)

      trusted with a gun.  Well that is so much more sensible than requiring background checks at gun shows.

      "YOPP!" --Horton Hears a Who

      by Reepicheep on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 08:51:02 AM PST

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      •  Or both. But again, war on drugs. (1+ / 0-)
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        We can have background checks at gun shows AND not release violent murderers. Doesn't have to be either/or.

        But why do you think criminals wont get around background checks?  The black market trade in drugs is completely shut down, right?  Illegal drugs are impossible to find and insanely expensive yes?

        •  I guess you are right, Norm. (1+ / 0-)
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          There is nothing any of us can possibly to to decrease the gun violence in our country.  We should take it as an unavoidable fact of modern life that lunatics will stockpile automatic weapons and then commit mass murder. That seems a small price to pay to guarantee that law abiding people can go hunting on the weekend.

          "YOPP!" --Horton Hears a Who

          by Reepicheep on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 12:57:45 PM PST

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          •  I offered up disarming the police. (0+ / 0-)

            First of all automatic weapons are banned and if anyone is stockpiling them, they're buying through the black market where there are no background checks at all. So don't over react.

            Now if you want to limit magazine sizes and semi-auto rifles, then the police should do the same and lead by example.  You do want to limit gun violence right?

            Or are you also going to tell me the cops can't give up their big guns, because big guns are the only way to stop bad guys?

            Why does a beat cop need a semi-auto weapon with a 17 round clip?  And don't tell me cops are responsible. I read the gun fail diaries.

            •  This is a really clever argument (0+ / 0-)

              More assertions based on legal theories pulled out of the ether.

              If you want to understand the first thing about the regulating assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and the constitutionality of same, you might want to start here, Norm.

              1927
              1932

              When you read the CD Circuit Court of Appeals decision on Heller II, please make a note when you encounter those two years and the courts discussion of the constitutionality of those laws. Two laws were upheld under intermediate scrutiny.

              1927 (Michigan, 16 round limit)
              1932 (DC, 12 round limit)

              "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

              by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 02:23:36 PM PST

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              •  Never claimed mag limits aren't constitutional (0+ / 0-)

                I have no constitutional issue with magazine limits. But just because a law is legal, doesn't mean GOP legislators will pass it.

                What I said is that the cops should lead by example, and give up large mags first. That would go a long way towards getting people in this country to follow suit.

                Because maybe you've noticed, but gun laws are getting looser, not tighter. If you want to turn the tide, might want to consider my advise. Or stick with the status quo, your call.

    •  Sex offenders go to jail. (2+ / 0-)
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      And in pretty much every state, once they are released they are subject to lifetime registration requirements.  Their names and the fact that they are sex offenders is public information.  

      In addition, most state laws place restrictions on where adjudicated sex offenders can live.  These restrictions can be very, very tight.  In fact, in Florida, there have been cases of local jurisdictions effectively barring sex offenders from living there.

      That's how sex offenders are "disarmed."

      "Ça c'est une chanson que j'aurais vraiment aimé ne pas avoir écrite." -- Barbara

      by FogCityJohn on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 01:10:53 PM PST

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      •  By preventing access to their "addiction" (0+ / 0-)

        That's a useful analogy, FogCityJohn.

        Have to admit that, as much as I don't like painting all gun offenders with a broad brush. It's so easy for corrupt police to manufacture gun possession/reason to search you, reason to search your vehicle, reason to search your home...

        When many gun possession charges are really the "petty crime" of gun violence. We need to develop the analogy of sex criminal restrictions for application to Domestic violence misdemeanors.

        "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

        by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 02:27:19 PM PST

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