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  •  Or both. But again, war on drugs. (1+ / 0-)
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    Reepicheep

    We can have background checks at gun shows AND not release violent murderers. Doesn't have to be either/or.

    But why do you think criminals wont get around background checks?  The black market trade in drugs is completely shut down, right?  Illegal drugs are impossible to find and insanely expensive yes?

    •  I guess you are right, Norm. (1+ / 0-)
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      There is nothing any of us can possibly to to decrease the gun violence in our country.  We should take it as an unavoidable fact of modern life that lunatics will stockpile automatic weapons and then commit mass murder. That seems a small price to pay to guarantee that law abiding people can go hunting on the weekend.

      "YOPP!" --Horton Hears a Who

      by Reepicheep on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 12:57:45 PM PST

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      •  I offered up disarming the police. (0+ / 0-)

        First of all automatic weapons are banned and if anyone is stockpiling them, they're buying through the black market where there are no background checks at all. So don't over react.

        Now if you want to limit magazine sizes and semi-auto rifles, then the police should do the same and lead by example.  You do want to limit gun violence right?

        Or are you also going to tell me the cops can't give up their big guns, because big guns are the only way to stop bad guys?

        Why does a beat cop need a semi-auto weapon with a 17 round clip?  And don't tell me cops are responsible. I read the gun fail diaries.

        •  This is a really clever argument (0+ / 0-)

          More assertions based on legal theories pulled out of the ether.

          If you want to understand the first thing about the regulating assault weapons and high-capacity magazines and the constitutionality of same, you might want to start here, Norm.

          1927
          1932

          When you read the CD Circuit Court of Appeals decision on Heller II, please make a note when you encounter those two years and the courts discussion of the constitutionality of those laws. Two laws were upheld under intermediate scrutiny.

          1927 (Michigan, 16 round limit)
          1932 (DC, 12 round limit)

          "They did not succeed in taking away our voice" - Angelique Kidjo - Opening the Lightning In a Bottle concert at Radio City Music Hall in New York City - 2003

          by LilithGardener on Fri Jan 03, 2014 at 02:23:36 PM PST

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          •  Never claimed mag limits aren't constitutional (0+ / 0-)

            I have no constitutional issue with magazine limits. But just because a law is legal, doesn't mean GOP legislators will pass it.

            What I said is that the cops should lead by example, and give up large mags first. That would go a long way towards getting people in this country to follow suit.

            Because maybe you've noticed, but gun laws are getting looser, not tighter. If you want to turn the tide, might want to consider my advise. Or stick with the status quo, your call.

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