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  •  That's one version of the Marissa Alexander (5+ / 0-)

    story. Here's another one: http://mediatrackers.org/...

    Bottom line: She was convicted of aggravated battery and, under Florida's 10-20-life law, she faced a minimum 20 year sentence for discharging a firearm during the commission of a felony.

    Whatever you might think of Florida: When you go to somebody's house in defiance of a court order, get into an argument, leave the house and come back with a gun and shoot, that ain't self defense.

    •  I thought he came to her house. (3+ / 0-)

      I had no idea that she went to his house, was able to leave and instead went out to her car, got her gun and returned. That's different, although it's not a big enough offense to warrant 20 years in prison. She had just had a baby, her hormones were probably raging. A good attorney could have gotten her off.

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      by slouching on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 05:53:24 AM PST

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    •  This is you source??? (5+ / 0-)
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      mediatrackers

      I scanned the headlines.  Looks like a crap website to me.
      Give me something better and I might actually read through the article.

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      by Naniboujou on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 05:54:31 AM PST

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    •  Well worth reading. (3+ / 0-)

      Particularly for this:

      If Alexander’s case suggests a failure of the legal system to mete out appropriate justice, then the problem lies with Florida’s mandatory minimum sentencing requirements, not with the state’s self-defense laws.
      Too bad there isn't a 10-20-life rule on voting for those hateful 10-20-life laws. Well, there is, but it's "make horrible votes and stay in office for life".

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      by tle on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 06:08:50 AM PST

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      •  That's a stupid argument (2+ / 0-)
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        I can't even believe that.   Sure, there are problems with the mandatory sentencing laws.  AND!!!!  there are problems with the stupid ass "self offense" laws.

        It's not like you have to decide which one gets fixed or blamed.

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        by otto on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 06:49:38 AM PST

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      •  These two things are NOT (1+ / 0-)
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        mutually exclusive.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 07:33:32 AM PST

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        •  No, but all the attention has been on SYG. (0+ / 0-)

          The article should not have presented it as an either-or, but with all the media uproar focused on the SYG laws, the horrible mandatory sentencing laws are being trivialized.

          The same people who passed SYG also passed 10-20-life.  The lesson seems to be, if you fire a gun, shoot to kill.  Which is certainly not what a civilized society should be saying.

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          by tle on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 08:02:44 AM PST

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          •  The media does that for reasons (0+ / 0-)

            unrelated to this:

            the problem lies with Florida’s mandatory minimum sentencing requirements, not with the state’s self-defense laws.
            These are both problems. But it's just as wrong to present them as an "either/or" construct, particularly when "mandatory sentencing" is not the only "other thing" being trivialized here.

            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

            by lunachickie on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 08:19:00 AM PST

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    •  Exactly... (7+ / 0-)

      The problem is with Florida's draconian laws and their misapplication in this case. Alexander committed a crime, that much is clear. But under the circumstances a suspended sentence and probation would have been appropriate. 20 years for recklessly discharging a firearm is a ridiculous sentence, and Corey's decision to now seek 60 years cannot be seen as anything but vindictive arrogance on her part.

      Florida... where committing the largest Medicare fraud ever can get you elected governor, shooting someone can get you acquitted, and missing can get you 60 years. Inbreeding, or something in the water?

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      by happy camper on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 06:30:24 AM PST

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      •  Neither (0+ / 0-)
        Inbreeding, or something in the water?
        It's called government corruption, and this state is, in my estimation, the most corrupt in this country right now (with the possible exception of Wisconsin).

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 07:34:44 AM PST

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        •  Hmmmm.... (1+ / 0-)
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          It's called government corruption, and this state is, in my estimation, the most corrupt in this country right now (with the possible exception of Wisconsin).
          Please don't forget NJ on the wall of shame for corrupt states.  Should be right up there with FL.

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          by Lilyvt on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 08:25:15 AM PST

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          •  Oh yeah! (2+ / 0-)
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            Boy, Chris Christie took a flying leap right into the Top Five, didn't he? Heh--sorry, didn't mean to imply otherwise ;)

            Then again--much as I hate to say it--he's got a long way to go before he's as good at being a Bad Guy as Rick Scott is. Scott skates through the courts in a single bound. I guess the one thing that's worse than a bully in a top political office is an obscenely-, literally-criminally rich bully in a top political office.

            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

            by lunachickie on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 08:51:46 AM PST

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      •  Mandatory sentencing... (0+ / 0-)

        you probably know the judge had no choice in the length of sentence, but that's not clear in your comment. Or I'm not fully awake yet. I fully agree with your comment, otherwise.

      •  Since the population of Florida consists mostly (0+ / 0-)

        of people who moved here from other states or other countries, you can rule out inbreeding.
           I don't think that 10-20-Life is an unreasonable law given that there is usually an opportunity to plead to a lesser charge, which Melissa Alexander refused to do.
           In real life, she was obviously guilty of aggravated assault. She either received catastrophically bad legal advice or she was too stubborn to understand that she had committed a crime.
           

        •  Well of course you would think that a 20 (1+ / 0-)
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          or even 60 year sentence is perfectly appropriate in this case.  After all, she refused the plea deal so she should spend the rest of her life in a maximum security prison if not solitary in a supermax.  After all, now she has nothing to lose by escaping, right?

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          by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 08:24:47 AM PST

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          •  It's not like 10-20-life is a secret. The state (1+ / 0-)
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            has a huge PR campaign with billboards and TV ads around it.
               Ms. Alexander chose to bring a gun into the house and fire a "warning shot." With those facts against her, why would she roll the dice?
               It's interesting that so many on this thread hate the 10-20-life law now, but are all for it when it gets applied to the Dunn case.
               Likewise, so many hate the SYG law when it protects Dunn and Zimmerman, but would love for it to be broadened to apply to women who go over to the ex's house and open fire.
               While the 20 year sentence is harsh given the facts of the case, Ms. Alexander has shown herself to be willing to settle an argument with gunfire. IMHO, the best outcome would be for her to plead, serve a prison sentence of, say, 3 years, and never go near a gun again.

            •  Actually, it is 60 years. Of course, since (1+ / 0-)
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              grabbing the baliff's gun and shooting the prosecutor dead right there in the courtroom would not result in a longer sentence (you can't get longer than life, after all) I am surprised such a thing hasn't happened yet in some of these cases.  I do wonder how the hell she is out on bail given that it is now going to be a life sentence if convicted.

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              by Throw The Bums Out on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 10:02:54 AM PST

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              •  Actually, the 60 years isn't new. The original (0+ / 0-)

                sentence was 20 years for each of three counts. The trial judge ruled that she could serve them concurrently, but there is some dispute as to whether he had the legal power to do that rather than have her serve them consecutively.

        •  10-20-life (0+ / 0-)

          is completely unreasonable because it takes away the judge's discretion in favor of a one size fits all law.

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          by happy camper on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 05:40:39 AM PST

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    •  Why would you cite this? (6+ / 0-)

      Here are the top five trending stories on that site-

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      Notice anything about those?

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      by otto on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 06:48:07 AM PST

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      •  Because it is a concise compendium of the facts of (0+ / 0-)

        the case, all in one place. The elements of the case have been reported over time, but this site laces them together...unlike the "poor woman firing a warning shot at her abuser" dreck that has flooded most liberal or left sites.
          Do you see anything in that report that is incorrect?

        •  Yeah (1+ / 0-)
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          I don't care where one is located, how come some people get to shoot and think later while others don't? Zimmerman was stalking someone in their own neighborhood and he got off.  What bunk.

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          by tobendaro on Sun Mar 02, 2014 at 09:38:56 AM PST

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