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  •  Wow. That's cynical. (1+ / 0-)
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    Shouldn't we do everything we can to keep the agreements we've made with disarmed states?

    Not saying you're wrong, but don't we really have a duty to act, and respond with soft power?

    I'm not saying military intervention. That would be an unmitigated disaster.

    An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

    by OllieGarkey on Mon Mar 03, 2014 at 07:17:43 PM PST

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    •  Nuclear disarmament has been Obama's (1+ / 0-)
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      one constant cause.  From his time as a Senator to this day, he has pushed for disarmament.

      For him to ignore the needs of the first nation to willingly disarm and totally rid itself of nuclear arms in exchange for protection would make his whole campaign against nuclear arms a joke.

    •  Of course we should (0+ / 0-)

      There's nothing we can do here militarily.

      IF you aren't cynical BY NOW, I can't help you.

      •  Armando. (0+ / 0-)

        No one is talking about Military options on DailyKos.

        No one.

        Not me. Not any comment I have read. I talked about what an absolute nightmare military conflict in Ukraine would be.

        I have repeatedly said in the comments that if this does kick off into a full blown war, we need to keep our troops as far away from it as possible. It will become an ethnic conflict the likes of which we haven't seen in our lifetimes.

        Are we so innoculated by the Bush administration that Action has to mean Military action?

        I laid out a clear roadmap of possible non-military actions.

        Because if one thing is clear it's that there is no possible military intervention. We can't send the Ukrainians guns, they'll wind up in the hands of neofascists. We can't send troops, because disinfo campaigns mean we'll be lied to and black flagged to oblivion. We can't send drones, because blowing up random people in afghanistan is one thing, but blowing up random people in a nation full of cell phone cameras will get someone accused of war crimes at the hague. See also the disinformation campaigns. We'll get tricked into blowing up a daycare.

        Action does not mean military action. Militarily, there's nothing we can do. And I haven't seen anyone on DailyKos disagree with that.

        An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

        by OllieGarkey on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 05:30:20 AM PST

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        •  There's not much the USG can do alone (0+ / 0-)

          period.

          MY objection to your thought process is this arrogant assumption that there is something important the UsG can do to impact this.

          There isn't.

          You'e an unwitting American Exceptionalist in many respects.

          That's a dangerous attitude when it comes to imagining World Policeman rile.

          •  Not alone, no. (0+ / 0-)

            But when we're talking about Nuclear Proliferation, it affects everyone.

            If we can get other people on board, we can have an impact. And from what I'm hearing about what's going on inside Russia, it wont take much.

            We are not without options here.

            An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

            by OllieGarkey on Tue Mar 04, 2014 at 09:34:28 AM PST

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