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  •  Richard - as a UC alum who had no parental (6+ / 0-)

    financial support and grew up in a lower middle class home I like the idea of giving some preference based on socio-economic status. The two top UC schools could fill their freshman classes with 4.0+ and high SAT score students so the admissions officers do need to look at some other factors, but by law in CA race can't count.

    In those states where race has been part of the admissions process we have seen examples where being a minority student was worth more than a perfect SAT score and where affluent minority students were given the same bonus as those who rose up from poverty. That's why we have such a divide on the issue of affirmative action. Few would argue that if you have two candidates with similar academic qualifications that the nod should go to the student who had a more difficult path growing up, with fewer resources to help them.

    I think if a repeal of Prop 209 was placed on the ballot, it would lose decisively.

    "let's talk about that"

    by VClib on Sat Mar 08, 2014 at 10:55:03 AM PST

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    •  Any admissions program is an effort (2+ / 0-)
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      to strike some kind of balance among multiple factors, some of which are in competition with each other. The problem with prop 209 is that it flatly outlawed all consideration of one dimension that has major significance in this society and its history. That puts it in a class with prop 8 and various other initiatives that have attempted to use the constitution to limit the rights of minorities as a group. I find that seriously objectionable. If this amendment does appear on the ballot, I will vote for it regardless of what other people do. I voted against prop 209 and I'm glad that I did.

    •  Actually UCs have indeed made special allowance (3+ / 0-)
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      for low income and 1st generation college applicants.  Over 1/3 of the incoming class comes from families with income below $40k. Back in 1995 that figure was 28%. So we have indeed replaced race-based affirmative action with class based affirmative action, and I think that is something everyone on the left could support.

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