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  •  Do you really see this happening (0+ / 0-)

    even if we had the Presidency, 300 House seats and 75 Senate seats? We would lose control of the government if we pushed this in any major way.

    It has to come from the private sector, most likely Silicon Valley.

    New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

    by AlexDrew on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 04:56:38 PM PDT

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    •  Right, putting Americans to work in good green (2+ / 0-)
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      sustainable living wage jobs in every community across the nation would be a political loser? More and more people everyday are waking up to the reality of how fossil fuels are destroying our environment and our economy. If we don't wean ourselves off of carbon sequestered millions of years ago we will too go the way of the Dodo sooner than even I would like to admit.

      We can no longer continue to add millions of tons of ancient carbon to our modern environment everyday...it will be the death of us. We can't breathe CO2 and methane. It just doesn't make sense to continue down this path when we have the technology to produce energy and biofuels in every community using currently sequestered carbon instead. The time is now to change our path to a decentralized and sustainable energy production model and to trash the current centralized fossil fuel model.

      Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

      by RMForbes on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 05:26:43 PM PDT

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      •  Beyond the first sentence, I agree with you (0+ / 0-)

        But if you think getting there will be painless, you should run for office and show them how to do it. It has to be done in stages to show that it can work.

        The record, when looked upon without emotion, is mixed. Write two long paragraphs explaining the politics of getting there. Most importantly, how to get Dem pols on board. Despite what the DKos Frontpage might have us think, other than MB, some on our side are yet to be convinced.

        New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

        by AlexDrew on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 05:48:22 PM PDT

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        •  Unfortunately we don't have the time (1+ / 0-)
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          If we don't completely wean ourselves off of fossil fuels within the next 15 years we are looking at an extinction level event in our children's, or on the outside, our children's children's lifetime. We just don't have the time to ease into anything.  

          Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

          by RMForbes on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 06:14:36 PM PDT

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          •  According to every third diary (0+ / 0-)

            we are on the cusp of total Dem electoral domination. But deep down I think you know it will be members of the Dem Party that will block the legislative revolution you seek. So incremental it will have to be, on the national level at least.

            There is nothing stopping blue states from taking the lead.
            Good luck with getting everything at once.

            New Republic: So are the left-wing blogs as bad as the Tea Party ones in this case? -------------------------Chuck Schumer: Left-wing blogs are the mirror image. They just have less credibility and less clout.

            by AlexDrew on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 04:28:32 PM PDT

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            •  I'm not talking about politics, I'm talking about (0+ / 0-)

              what we need to do to prevent a sixth mass extinction event. If the national politicians want to fiddle while Rome burns, so be it. We don't really need the politicians of either side to get things done that will both create permanent domestic jobs and wean us off of fossilized energy.

              We could produce all of our basic needs locally including food and fuel if we really tried. The era of massive centralization is over and the communities that are the most self sufficient will come out of this period of great change better off than those that rely on centralized form of production. Like they said back in the 70's...Think Globally and Act Locally.    

              Really don't mind if you sit this one out. My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT. I may make you feel but I can't make you think..Jethro Tull

              by RMForbes on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 05:04:51 PM PDT

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        •  Some of the politics is regional. (1+ / 0-)
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          Wind energy and the renewable fuels standard has strong bipartisan support in Iowa and some other states.  Solar is gaining support too. Most Democratic Senators are not supporting KXL.

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