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  •  I Think Most In the Scientific World Would Start (9+ / 0-)

    with the biggest and most basic problems and finish off the subject before having to bother with such minutia.

    There was a recent diary within the last week or two pointing out that there is not enough water on the entire planet, including oceans lakes glaciers rivers and underground aquifers,  to raise the seas more than a few hundred feet, which would leave almost all the land still dry. I'd link it but I'm not finding it with this site's dicey search function. Someone else may have a pointer.

    So there's really no need to get into the rest of it.

    Although it can sometimes be entertaining to pursue some of the ideas to their logical conclusions.

    We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

    by Gooserock on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 05:11:23 PM PDT

    •  I would agree... (3+ / 0-)
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      except that the counter to such objections is, "well, God probably just..." They actually have all sorts of sad answers to that point. Like fossil dating and other well established ideas, they are simply rejected.
      My approach is to work within the limitations and special allowances they grant thmselves -- because it is such bad pseudo-science that, even within their own framework, it's pretty easy to disprove.

    •  They used to have an answer to that... (2+ / 0-)
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      The sky, or "firmament" was seen as being, well, firm. It covered the Earth, which was a circular disc (says in the bible that god marked it off with a compass) as a dome. This separated the land from the waters beyond. It would get leaky sometimes and you'd get rain. When god decided to destroy the world (in a comic book he'd be called Dr. Omnipotent and heaven would be his "lair") he simply opened the firmament.

      The YECs may have abandoned the literal word of the bible in this case, but I understand there are flat Earthers out there who haven't given up.

      One good thing about music, when it hits you feel no pain -Bob Marley

      by Darwinian Detritus on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 06:53:39 PM PDT

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    •  But (1+ / 0-)
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      There was a recent diary within the last week or two pointing out that there is not enough water on the entire planet, including oceans lakes glaciers rivers and underground aquifers,  to raise the seas more than a few hundred feet, which would leave almost all the land still dry.
      Don't you see? That means there were far fewer species Noah had to rescue: only those that coulde not survive up to a few hundred feet of elevation!  So there was plenty of room on the ark!

      Ideology: A set of assumptions so appealing that one looks at their abstract logic rather than at how the world actually works. -Michael Hudson

      by Justus on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 09:08:24 PM PDT

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    •  Yup. It would have taken (0+ / 0-)

      200 feet of water a day to put Mt. Ararat under water in 40 days. That is not rain.

      Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

      by Mokurai on Thu Apr 10, 2014 at 10:08:04 PM PDT

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    •  about 70 meters max for all the icecaps (0+ / 0-)

      somewhere around 100 meters max for all the groundwater.

      Dawkins is to atheism as Rand is to personal responsibility. uid 52583 lol

      by terrypinder on Fri Apr 11, 2014 at 04:43:21 AM PDT

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