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  •  There is no end state. (0+ / 0-)

    You can no more prevent humans from politicking than you can prevent us from fornicating... and for the exact same reason:

    "Let's go over there, fuck all their women and take all their shit" is baked into us too deeply to ever be rooted out.

    So, the most important questions in politics are "who decides?" and "how do we limit the damage?" And, "nobody" and "there won't be any" aren't answers... after a couple of hundred thousand years, if there was a perfect system, we'd have found it by now. There are no perfect systems for organizing humans, because humans are not perfectible.

    Utopians are terrifying.

    --Shannon

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
    "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

    by Leftie Gunner on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 08:52:08 PM PDT

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    •  Nonsense. (0+ / 0-)
      "Let's go over there, fuck all their women and take all their shit" is baked into us too deeply to ever be rooted out.
      Billions of people the world over live out their entire lives in this era without any sense of "let's go over there, fuck all their women and take all their shit."  Overgeneralizing a few historical instances to some imagined innate tendency of the human race will convince nobody.

      "Assume man to be man and his relationship to the world to be a human one: then you can exchange love only for love, trust for trust" -- Karl Marx

      by Cassiodorus on Tue Apr 22, 2014 at 09:04:19 PM PDT

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