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  •  Populism doesn't abandon the disenfranchised. (none)
    Howard Dean has the right idea.  He focuses on the state and local parties, and if my predictions are correct, that means he would probably encourage the Democratic Party to focus on "the disenfranchised" from a state and local level, too.  Great for libertarians AND liberals.

    (I have more than a few libertarian bones in my body, but I identify myself as a liberal.  The two are far more similar than any Republican, and most Democrats, would admit.)

    •  I Like Dean, But Where's the Liberalism? (none)
      "A 'Western platform' is the future of the Democratic Party, and one that I embrace to my very core -- fiscal and personal responsibility, rugged individualism, freedom to live one's life without government intrusion into the doctor's office or the bedroom. The intersection of libertarianism, good government, and economic populism."

      Unless "good government" is code for "Liberalism", I don't see any reference to Liberal ideas. Liberals ask for sacrifice. Nowadays, everybody wants something for nothing, and woe unto the politician who says they should sacrifice for the common good, or (heaven forbid!) for those less fortunate.

      This is CLASS WAR, and the other side is winning.

      by Mr X on Mon Jul 18, 2005 at 08:59:00 AM PDT

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      •  I think you're reading too much into it (none)
        Dean is hitting on THEIR buzzwords, not repeating yours.  Does anything he said actually contradict your own values?

        You win people over by speaking to them in a language they can understand.

        There is an unsubtle difference between breathing fire and blowing smoke.

        by Leggy Starlitz on Mon Jul 18, 2005 at 09:14:45 AM PDT

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        •  As I Said, 'I Like Dean' (none)
          I was addressing Kos' words, not Dean's.

          I am quite Libertarian, but I am also Liberal. I don't like the fact that the Democratic party is abandoning Liberalism. At best, it is doing this for "electability". At worst, it's become almost as pro wealth/business as the Republican party.

          This is CLASS WAR, and the other side is winning.

          by Mr X on Tue Jul 19, 2005 at 12:12:03 PM PDT

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