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  •  If we don't filibuster (none)
    then when/if Bush's next appointment comes, we will talk about how scared we are to filibuster that, too.  The Repubs took more lumps from the nuclear option fight than we did.  If I can see that here in bright red North Carolina, I would hope everyone can see it.  If we are afraid to filibuster when we want to, then the nuclear option has already worked.

    "Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." George Bernard Shaw

    by Shygetz on Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 08:58:31 AM PDT

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    •  The fillibuster cannot (none)
      be justified against this guy.  He doesn't have enough of a paper trail to show the public that he is unqualified.  

      A fillibuster will fail and the dems will look bad.  Fillibustering Roberts will acheive a pyrrhic victory, without the victory part.

      "Although some species may be now increasing, more or less rapidly, in numbers, all cannot do so, for the world would not hold them." Darwin

      by dissenter2004 on Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 09:59:28 AM PDT

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      •  Thie filibuster can be justified (none)
        Does it ever occur to you that the fact that this guy doesn't have a "paper trail" is an EXCELLENT reason to say no.  If the guy only spends two years as a jurist (not two years on the appeals court, two whole years as a judge of any sort) and then gets appointed to the highest court in the land...you bet your ass that's a great reason to say "I want to see what kind of judge he is first.  Try again in five years."

        A filibuster will not necessarily fail.  If the Dems can hold 41 votes, the filibuster will not fail.  Either the filibuster will prevent the nomination, or the filibuster will force the Repubs to push the nuclear option button, which will piss off the public.  If the Dems cannot hold 41 votes, then of course a filibuster shouldn't be attempted.  

        What concerns me is that people are so scared of the nuclear option that they rule out the possibility of a filibuster.  That logic is beyond stupid.  

        "Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve." George Bernard Shaw

        by Shygetz on Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 10:22:02 AM PDT

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        •  No it doesn't. (none)
          "Does it ever occur to you that the fact that this guy doesn't have a "paper trail" is an EXCELLENT reason to say no."

          Rhenquist was never a judge, Earl Warren was never a judge, Lewis F. Powell Jr,...

          Of the 108 people who have served on the Supreme Court, only 48 - fewer than half - were drawn from the ranks of sitting judges. And while judges do make up the biggest single biographical category, there have also been 25 practicing lawyers, 9 attorneys general or deputy attorneys general, 7 holders of other cabinet positions, 6 senators, 2 members of the House of Representatives, 3 governors, 2 solicitors general and 2 law professors.

          The fillibuster will fail because this guy is not unqualified.  He is right wing but in a right wing country dominated by a rightwing executive and a rightwing legislature we are naturally going to end up with a rightwing judiciary.  I don't like it any better than you but that's where we are.  As I said elsewhere, fillibustering Roberts will be a phyrric victory, without the victory part.  Might as well keep it for any Judge Roy Moores that pop up later.  

          "Although some species may be now increasing, more or less rapidly, in numbers, all cannot do so, for the world would not hold them." Darwin

          by dissenter2004 on Wed Jul 20, 2005 at 10:45:50 AM PDT

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