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  •  Is Rove... (4.00)
    ...thinking we'll launch the nuclear option on Miers? Admittedly, they have been VERY off their game of late, but as far as "strategery" goes, this sucks -- I mean, even I wouldn't be this stupid.
    Methinks Shrub feels things closing in on him FAST and he's gathering as many security blankets as he can...
    BTW, Georgia--welcome back!

    "When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles." -- despair.com

    by Newton Snookers on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 09:04:46 AM PDT

    •  thanks :) (none)
      I think the strategy was this.

      Republicans, especially those up for re-election in 2006, have sought to distance themselves from Bush.  I had thought this was a s.o.s. move to (a) signal to moderate conservatives that Bush can still be trusted (ha!) and (b) provoke the Democrats to filibuster to take the heat of the executive branch.

      But, in light of the fact that the WH knew Reid liked Miers, i now doubt "provoking Democrats" was the plan. Maybe it was meant to provoke the grassroots, cause tension within the party? Not sure.

      In all honesty, I think he nominated her hoping her confirmation hearings would take heat off the plame coverage. Oct. 28th is closing in fast.

      Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty..." - Lincoln

      by Georgia Logothetis on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 09:26:17 AM PDT

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      •  I dunno... (none)
        ...there always is a larger game afoot with these rodentia. I do agree about this being, at the very least, yet another in a long, legendary line of distractors.
        Thing is, if Harriet IS a sacrificial lamb of sorts, especially if she's questioned the way you suggest (I'm having a hard time imagining who, except for Ted Kennedy, would actually even think to ASK your questions--necessary as they are), Shrub can ostensibly get emotional-like about how "bad" people are treating her -- this sets up a parade of nominees to which Shrub can then whine to the American people that the Dems are being mean to him and that he's simply gonna APPOINT one.

        "When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles." -- despair.com

        by Newton Snookers on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 09:36:04 AM PDT

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      •  We always (none)
        talk about the right wing base, and how important they are to the repubs in national elections. True as that may be, they would be sunk without old fashioned, 'moderate' repubs.

        This group has not been too keen on the situation in DC. I'm thinking Bush/Rove realize that if they do nothing but toss red meat to the religeous fringe, they will lose too many of the moderate, suburban repubs in '06.

        This nomination is a signal to moderates that Bush hasn't gone so completely bonkers as it seems.

        It will be interesting to see if the rabid wing of the repub party will dutifully take their seats at the back of the bus. Or, will they finally realize that they're getting played as a bunch of dupes?

        I'm not optimistic. Those people are a bunch of dupes. They haven't revolted against the party yet. I don't see why they would start now.

        If this move soothes the moderates, it will be a very uphill fight in '06.

    •  overestimating rove (4.00)
      democrats in general and the netroots in particular tend to ascribe fantastically intricate plots and diabolical cleverness to rove ie maybe rove thinks if he does A, then B will happen, causing C, leading to reaction D from the democrats... ad nauseum.  

      doubtless he is effective, but he is effective because he is mean and ruthless, not because he is infallible.  nobody can see that far down the road, and the stakes are too high for these kinds of gambles anyway.

      could it be that bush made a politically stupid nomination not because it will lead to some cascading series of events leading to a super conservative victory (in which those bad old moderate democrats are all complicit), but just because it was a politically stupid nomination?

      just a think.

      "something pithy"

      by otis m on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 10:23:15 AM PDT

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      •  I can't disagree... (none)
        ...we DO tend to OVERthink things, especially when it comes to that preternaturally prescient (seemingly) pile of putrescence Rove. But that's just 'cause he's effective.
        Seems to me, maybe we oughta listen to James Carville a little more...

        "When the winds of change blow hard enough, the most trivial of things can become deadly projectiles." -- despair.com

        by Newton Snookers on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 10:32:58 AM PDT

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        •  We Don't OVER Think--We MIS-Think (none)
          The one explanation we can know is inapplicable is that the appointment was made by the political principles for the democratic purposes of a republic.

          These people only act to acquire or protect assets. The appointment can only be one or the other.

          We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

          by Gooserock on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 11:28:42 AM PDT

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      •  I agree (none)
        that Rove has been given far too much credit (unfortuately, by many here on the progressive side) for political strategy.  He is just a shameless, nasty shit, and even in the cesspool that often passes as politics, he threw many people off their game for a while with just the level of nastiness of which he is capable.  But he is not "the man behind the curtain" who can choreograph events to his purposes.  Reality is catching up to these bastards.

        It's that confrontation with reality that is unhinging Bush.  I don't think that there is any plan behind the Miers nomination.  Her nomination is just a political manifestation of Bush rocking in the corner, sucking his thumb.  He has to surround himself with people who know him, are loyal to him, and who tell him that he's the most brilliant guy they've ever met.

        "Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

        by blueinnc on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 11:10:27 AM PDT

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      •  It's even possible that Rove is off his game... (none)
        ...due to his own legal troubles.  People such as him usually sow the seeds of their own destruction.   Would that the time has come for him to come down.  If it's at hand, he could well be stressed & distracted, & not doing his best.

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