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  •  the filibuster is more (none)
    than just a mechanism to block something.

    The filibuster is political theater. Something "our" representatives have NO taste for. It's a dramatic way to highlight differences as well as slow down/stop a nominee or piece of legislation.

    They won't do that b/c they are fine w/ the Republican agenda. I see little or no sign that Schumer and Reid and the rest give a rats ass about our concerns.

    Whatever happened to: threatened yesterday to bring the chamber to a virtual standstill?

    Oh, that's right, they'd only fight if their perogative as Senators to HAVE filibusters (not necessarilly USE them) was threatened.

    They care only about themselves and their corporate patrons. They are fine w/ the Republican business agenda, their wars of hegemony and many of them are fine w/ Republican social policies.

    We have no party.

    •  Absolutely right (4.00)
      This is making me really angry.

      Neither the Senate Democrats nor most Kossacks seem to understand basic politics.

      A filibuster is political theater. If we lose, so what? None of you seem to expect to win this fight anyway. So what's the harm in making a stand, showing Americans we'll fight for our values against cronyism?

      georgia10 has shown us the way forward. Let's take it.

      I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

      by eugene on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 10:05:50 AM PDT

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      •  I'm not sure (none)
        that staging political theatre in which Democrats lose is the wisest of all possible presentations. This would possibly a) unify the right against the 'obstructionist left' at a time when they're falling apart, b) distract the media from DeLay/Plame/etc., c) stage a dramatic climax in which Democrats are revealed as 'losers'.

        This is political theatre. The question is, what play do we stage which most benefits us, and the country? I'm not convinced a filibuster is our best option.

        Let there be sharks - TracieLynn

        by GussieFN on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 10:47:53 AM PDT

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        •  Know why Bush never uses the veto? (none)
          It's for that very reason -- he doesn't want to risk seeing it overturned, and thus looking like a "loser" -- or worse, someone at war with his own party.
        •  They're not falling apart (4.00)
          It will take a LOT to convince the freepi to abandon Bush and the GOP. Where else are they going to go? Right now all they're doing is throwing a temper tantrum because they did not get the avowed, overt wingnut they hoped would validate their own lunacy.

          So far I see zero concrete evidence of any split on the right. Disagreements are not actual splits.

          You are right that a Dem filibuster would unify them in opposition. But I don't see any indication that they will split over this nomination.

          I'm not part of a redneck agenda - Green Day

          by eugene on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 11:08:21 AM PDT

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        •  the right (none)
          staged political protest after protest: walking out on votes, filibusters, threatened filibusters ... they lost and lost and ...

          ... then they won, and they've held increasing power ever since. How do you think they GOT there?

          •  But political theatre of this sort (none)
            isn't the foundation of the right's power. If we had a similar base--a nationwide network of prayer groups, talk radio, gospel hour, nightly-news, etc.--then I'd agree, the right loss is a wonderful to whip the base into a frenzy. But we don't have such a base yet. We haven't spent the time and money on the 'hot-button' issues, so our political theatre plays like, 'we went down in a blaze of glory to save the unborn.' That's just not the show that the American people will see: they'll see the 'obstructionist Democrat' show ... because the Republican have been putting posters up all over town for the past ten years, advertising.

            Shit that works for them won't work for us. They build a movement, an identity, they bound together God and party and the American Way ... and all we have is science and reality and good public policy.

            Let there be sharks - TracieLynn

            by GussieFN on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 12:40:02 PM PDT

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        •  Republicans used this tactic very effectively... (none)
          ...to build their base.  No reason it can't be used similarly on our side.  When I think of political theater, I think first and foremost of the hearings.  The senate floor is a ways off from there.
    •  Hearings are also political theater... (none)
      ...and will, hopefully, be used as such.

      I especially look forward to her being asked about 50 different things which she responds to be saying that there's attorney-client privelege involved.  Then being asked 50 times if she will recuse herself from those matters?

      After all, a judge should not sit in judgment of anything they had direct involvement with, right?

      This ain't just a hunting trip...

    •  Yes Indeed (none)
      The whole gang of them-the chummy Senate Democrats-and a large share of the House Democrats-have no intention to fight for the people who voted for them.  They will sit in the Senate dining hall with their free meals and free cars and travel accounts and they will be wined and dined by corporate lobbyists and travel all over the world on the corporate dime-and then they will go and vote for the corporate Bankruptcy bill and do nothing to fight for union rights or unemployment extensions or opposing the Iraq war.  They are pathetic, and every new day I get more evidence of their cowardice and collusion with the Republicans.

      Reid should have kept his distance until he found out more about her-and what little I have found out on the Internet in the past hour has left me deeply disturbed.  The fact that Reid and Schumer and others are not deeply disturbed about this woman, about her stealth unknown positions, about her membership in a wingnut, fundamentalist church, about her being a Bush crony who sought to shelter Bush on his drunk driving record and National Guard record, is reason enough to at least have kept their damned mouths shut.

      We will know all is lost if Kennedy joins the gutless circus.  All eyes are now on Hillary.  

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