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  •  I think turbines could be scaled down (4.00)
    to the point where even a village could buy and run them. They can be free floating. Here a couple of photos of a smaller unit.

    "The bicycle, the bicycle surely, should always be the vehicle of novelists and poets" , Christopher Morley

    by Chris Kulczycki on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 06:31:34 AM PST

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    •  "You may trust your... (none)
      ...governmentvillage or its political party right now - but governments villages fall, and parties last until the next election."

      And here I thought that one of the driving forces in the 'modern' implementation of representative governments, was to get rid of the rampant cronyism and nepotism of the 'village elder' model of government.  Semi-snark, no offense...

      Look, tidal is cool, granted.  So is wind power, active geo-thermal, and any number of technologies for renewable energy.  But they're all local generation schemes - which is to say that they're only good in certain localities.  And just because I believe in renewable energy, doesn't mean I'm going to ignore the economy-of-scale lessons that we've learned since the advent of the assembly line.

      Solar PV works everywhere - yes, to a greater or lesser efficiency, but still everywhere - and that means it's ultimately cheaper, from a manufacturing standpoint.  And it's still the only generation scheme I'm aware of that can be scaled down to the individual user.

      JF

      Invest in your future - VOTE DIEBOLD!

      by Jaime Frontero on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 07:00:03 AM PST

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      •  Local schemes (4.00)
        It's my opinion that local power is where it's at.  I think we have to build and remodel to include independently power homes.  

        Multiple energy sources need to be used.

        I don't think we'll be able to stick with one energy source just because it's streamlined.

        •  Yes, you're right about... (none)
          ...sticking "with one energy source just because it's streamlined."

          Large energy consumers, especially power-intensive corporations that manufacture stuff, need access to a wide and tunable power grid.  That's unlikely to change in the next hundred years or so.

          You're also right about this:  "I think we have to build and remodel to include independently power[ed] homes."

          That's pretty much my point.  Let the power corporations sell their power to the consumer corporations - but get us out of the loop.  Mandate two-way meters, so we can sell our excess electricity generation back to the grid (as already exists in several areas).

          I don't want these corporations to be dependent on us - I'm basically a capitalist (-2.75, -6.15) - but I'm damned sick and tired of being dependent on them.

          JF

          Invest in your future - VOTE DIEBOLD!

          by Jaime Frontero on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 07:19:51 AM PST

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          •  Seattle (none)
            We've got the ability here to sell our power back.  It's still out of reach for most consumers to install the solar panels.
            •  Here in Minnesota... (none)
              ...we can sell our power back, too.

              And with "Energy Saver" subsidies, it's possible to amortize a solar PVP installation over a period of 8 - 10 years.

              By the time I buy another piece of dirt (I'm renting at the moment), probably in a couple of years, I'll do it.

              JF

              Invest in your future - VOTE DIEBOLD!

              by Jaime Frontero on Fri Nov 11, 2005 at 07:46:06 AM PST

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