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  •  Come now (none)
    You don't need any help with that one do you?

    authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.

    Sec. 2.  Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign
    Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act
    to obtain orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.

    Sec. 3.  Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or
    defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches

    What part do you not get?

    The SCOTUS is extraordinary.

    by Armando on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 04:02:44 AM PST

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    •  See above please n/t (none)

      ...gleefully connecting dots since 1966 scratch

      by arbortender on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 04:12:18 AM PST

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    •  Also, I'm new. Doing my derndest to catch up fast (4.00)

      ...gleefully connecting dots since 1966 scratch

      by arbortender on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 04:13:28 AM PST

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    •  I do. I'm new, fertheluvvapete! This part. (none)
      Sec 1. notgets
      None here, if we can safely presume that the AG did make such certification within his power to so authorize. So that part's clear.

      Sec. 2. notgets

      Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign
      Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.

      Sec.3 notgets

      Now that I'm reading that, there's a fairly significant grammar gaf in

      Sec. 3.  Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or
      defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches

      which I think is in the actual text, and not your typo.  Should be 'are'? Simple?  Deliberate?  What?  What are we to infer, if anything, from that error?

      Assuming 'are' was meant, so what? So General Rip & Kernel Snort are so-designated.  I don't see "shall certify", "must certify."

      ...gleefully connecting dots since 1966 scratch

      by arbortender on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 04:29:08 AM PST

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      •  Huh? (none)
        what don't you get?

        The SCOTUS is extraordinary.

        by Armando on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 04:34:58 AM PST

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        •  give me the nail so I can hammer it, please. (none)
          As I'd rather catch more of your new front pages as they emerge.
          However, in case you do return here:
          Here is where I'm pointing:

          The Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the FISC

          and

          Specified national security or defense employees [are] designated to make the certifications  in support of [such AG-authorized] applications

          BUT, where is the line in there, or somewhere(?) clearly stating that they are required to be bothered with doing either?

          So empowered, but not so required....or do you read it differently?

          Put another way, the language I don't see is:
          The AG shall...
          The certifying authority shall...

          I'm not arguing that they're not required to.
          Nope,
          I'm struggling with the chronic and deliberate weasel-wording that seems to leave a truck-size loop for steppin' through.

          So help me out here:

          AG: Where does it say I must do that?
          arbortender:  um...
          Armando: Wellsir. Here ye go, right here.
          arbortender: where?

          ...gleefully connecting dots since 1966 scratch

          by arbortender on Wed Jan 04, 2006 at 09:39:40 PM PST

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