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  •  remember general shinseki. (none / 0)

    We get a lot of advice. We tend to listen when somebody's won something. - Joe Lockhart

    by yankeedoodler on Thu Nov 11, 2004 at 03:58:14 PM PDT

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    •  Yup, they do.. (none / 0)

      ..and that's why W canned him.  Speaking up is now a CLM.

      "Strength and wisdom are not opposing values" - Bill Clinton.

      by RAST on Thu Nov 11, 2004 at 04:48:37 PM PDT

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      •  Even so (none / 0)

        It is still a dereliction of duty to not speak the truth, be it in private or in public -- their duty to the Constitution, the American people and the people that serve under them outweighs their duty to the Commander in Chief and their own hard-won careers.

        Remember the Nixon AG's who resigned rather than execute the Saturday Night Massacre? They did the right thing. No, it's not easy to throw away a career of 20 or 40 years and the only adult life you have known -- but if the Joint Chiefs and their staff need to pull a Shinseki in order to remedy this fool's errand and avoid making the same mistakes over and over, so be it.

        by sakitume on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 07:12:19 AM PDT

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    •  Shinseki... (none / 0)

      Isn't he the one that John Kerry lied about?  At least that is what you would think by listening to CNN or FactCheck.org.

      We all know that his legs were cut off, but under this administration anyone that dares to speak up (Paul O'Niell, Richard Clarke, Jim Jeffords etc...) face severe retribution.

      by DaleNC on Fri Nov 12, 2004 at 07:44:54 AM PDT

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