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  •  Visceral (none / 1)

    There is something visceral about this death.  We get conditioned to see fake violence on TV.  We hear about true violence but do not really get exposed to it first hand.  (That's not entirely true-I should simply say that I have not been exposed to it for which I am grateful.)

    I imagine that the right wing will point to this and ask, "Aren't you glad that is happening in Iraq and not in the homeland?"  (Anyone else find the word "homeland" to be disconcerting?)

    At some point, I'd like to think that there will be enough humans in the US who will tell the right wing to shove it up it's you-know-what.  The polls are suggesting that the humans in the US are awakening.

    by JP on Tue May 11, 2004 at 09:36:18 PM PDT

    •  yes (4.00 / 2)

      (Anyone else find the word "homeland" to be disconcerting?)

      I do. Very much so.  And, I am really creeped out by the U.S. flags that some people fly from their car windows (on both sides).

      Bush's Vietnam

      by raincat100 on Tue May 11, 2004 at 09:47:41 PM PDT

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      •  I find it difficult (none / 0)

        Not to flip those people off.  I don't do it, but I'm surprised at how strong the impulse is.

        by paradox on Wed May 12, 2004 at 04:55:30 AM PDT

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        •  GBA Mother F*#ker! (none / 0)

          A few weeks ago a friend told me that she's begun quietly saying that little phrase every time she runs into anything that strikes her as overly nationalistic. For example, red, white, and blue oven mits...

          GBA -- God Bless America

          by Jeff in NY on Wed May 12, 2004 at 05:54:31 AM PDT

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          •  Consumerist Patriotic Garbage (none / 0)

            D people love to collect stuff because it reflects who they are?
            Scary.
            Walmart
            How is this crap patriotic?
            The Franklin Mint offers its share of junk
            I whole heardetly believe Ashcroft went out and bought this garbage
            Their motto:
            "Sharing the passion of collecting",
            bull,
            Merging the Passion of Collecting with Distorted Patriotism

            "If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking 'til you suck seed."--Curly Howard

            by JackAshe on Wed May 12, 2004 at 06:17:58 AM PDT

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            •  It's all made in China, anyway (none / 1)

              at least in my local (southern NH) branch of the discount store Christmas Tree Shops.

              About twenty feet of patriotic junk - flags, greeting cards, lawn ornaments, Uncle Sam figures, et cetera.

              Not one item made by American workers in America.

              - What happens on DailyKos, stays on Google.

              by Jon Meltzer on Wed May 12, 2004 at 11:42:51 AM PDT

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    •  I find the term a lot more (4.00 / 3)

      than disconcerting... I abhor it! It's a Fascist term... I emailed Kerry and told him when he gets elected, his first Executive Order should be to change that d#$% name, and then abolish the dept.! We have the National Guard --- 'course they're never home these days! - what do we need with __ ? Has Tom Ridge actually 'done' anything? I mean besides move the color code up and down and recommend duct tape?

      Peace

      An unexamined life is not worth living - Socrates

      by crone on Tue May 11, 2004 at 09:53:10 PM PDT

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    •  "Homeland" sickens me, too, (4.00 / 2)

      because it harks back Hitlerian Germany when the Nazis extolled "Heimat" (homeland) at every opportunity.  When I first heard the news that the new department would be called "Homeland Security" I cringed.  Hitler had precisely the same thing, the "Heimatschutz."  What was/is so horrible about it is that you can justify just about anything in its name.  And I agree about the flags, too.  They're flying everywhere in the US just as they were in the Drittes Reich in Grossdeutschland (Greater Germany).  There are good many other parallels beyond these, but I'm too spooked to continue...    

      -7.13 / -6.97 "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -- Edmund Burke

      by GulfExpat on Tue May 11, 2004 at 10:27:10 PM PDT

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    •  Homeland disconcerting? (none / 0)

      Why?  Because it sounds so much like "the Fatherland"?  Anybody remember Mein Kampf?  The echoes are getting louder and louder.

      I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. Will Rogers.

      by tomathawl on Wed May 12, 2004 at 08:54:52 AM PDT

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