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  •  The the talk about the draft (none / 0)

    the more who will join us in opposing this war,

    http://draftfreedom.org

    by Tom Kertes on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 12:45:13 PM PDT

    •  If they reinstate the draft, every incumbent (none / 0)

      republican will be voted out... and they know it!!!

      Confucius say: Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.

      by bluecayuga on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 01:50:50 PM PDT

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      •  I don't think so (4.00 / 3)

        It would be couched as a "dire need to defend freedom," excessive times require drastic measures - "look at all the car bombs today!" No, so long as Bob and Jane's kids can keep the SUV and not a Hummer, they'll be fine.  Just fine.  BTW, teenagers are much more likely to die when rolling an SUV than crashing a a Saturn.

        pith

        by moltar on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 02:05:40 PM PDT

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        •  There will be a terrorist incident (none / 0)

          and they will use that to take "urgent national measures" - there will have to be something to spark it and provide the justification for the about face.

          by storme on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 06:25:22 PM PDT

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          •  Scary as hell, but not unlikely... (none / 0)

            We've got to dump all over Bush if another major attack happens on his watch. He's done everything to incite terrorism and nothing to stop it.
            God damn the war-pigs!

            BTW: Two new photoshop cartoons on my badass blog:

            Rush Limbaugh and Daryn Kagan

            Condi and Bush

            by VisualPolitics on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 06:42:44 PM PDT

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          •  Speaking of which... (none / 0)

            whatever happened to that terrorist incident lots of people were talking about that was going to happen in late October so that Bush could suspend the election and institute martial law?  Is this new terrorist incident being planned by the same people?

            by f1 dad on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 06:06:31 AM PDT

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            •  asdf (none / 0)

              suspension of habeas corpus, the use of torture by U.S. forces, our highest government officials defending the use of torture, background security checks on all citizens who fly: Paranoid fantasies just a few years ago.

              I don't think Bushco staged 9/11 but I do think they ran it as far as it would take them and I think they'll do the same if there is another incident.

              by storme on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 06:31:29 PM PDT

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      •  well, at least some . . . (4.00 / 2)

        "every incumbent" is probably an overstatement. Unfortunately, there are some parts of the country that are so red that Republicans would still win even if the Democrats nominated Jesus and the GOP nominated Satan.

        That having been said, yes, a draft would spell the end to a lot of Republican political careers.

        by pine on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 02:55:23 PM PDT

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    •  Consider that we have all already been drafted.... (none / 0)

      .... not to the front lines for most but by conscripting the product of our labor. Consider the huge budget demand required to support death and destruction.  One of our most reliable exports, isn't it?

      "If a thousand men [and women] were not to pay their tax-bills this year, that would not be a violent and bloody measure, as it would to pay them, and enable the State to commit violence and shed innocent blood."
      -Henry David Thoreau

      "Let them march all they want, as long as they continue to pay their taxes."
      -Alexander Haig, U.S. Sec. of State, June 12, 1982

      WAR TAX RESISTANCE has become the non-violent means for some to respond. Site links if you would like to investigate:

      http://www.warresisters.org/
      http://www.nwtrcc.org/

      NeverLoseHope

      Stand in the crossroads and look; ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it, and you will find rest for your souls Jer 6:16

      by neverlosehope on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 02:26:09 PM PDT

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    •  question for Tom (none / 0)

      Tom, if a draft does happen or becomes imminent, do you plan on adding information to your website about options for draftees interested in leaving the United States?

      by pine on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 02:59:07 PM PDT

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    •  privatizing the draft (none / 1)

      will not end it. Condie Rice chaired rand. Rand subcontracted diebold. It's just a failsafe way to keep republiclown kids from serving the wars...

      Conyers is America's Conscience.

      by Mr Murder on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 06:15:16 PM PDT

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      •  RAND (none / 1)

        Could you please post links that confirm Rice's role in RAND? (My quick-and-dirty searches didn't satisfy.)

        My view of RAND has always been that they would pretty much do any research that you paid them to do, but would publish it after they were done whether or not you wanted that.

        Thanks, from the nearly computer-illiterate.

        And if you need anything...there's some ants.

        by Skipbidder on Wed Jan 19, 2005 at 08:45:43 PM PDT

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      •  Unless Condi had a sex change (none / 1)

        I think you're mistaken.  Donald Rice headed RAND, not Condi.  No relation between them, either.

        You'd find it a bit more fruitful to investigate Rumsfeld's connections to RAND, BTW.

        by modus potus on Thu Jan 20, 2005 at 06:09:05 AM PDT

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