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  •  Wrong (4.00 / 2)

    There's a lot of societal knowledge to be found. And it can be found even though you're not making experiments in a laboratory. For example: the relation between socio-economic background and educational achievments.  

    And the idea of a unifying method for all natural sciences which yield absolute knowledge is dead. Have you read anything in philosophy of science? I recommend "What is this thing called science" by prof Chalmers.

    Generally social science supports liberal view points. Conservatism needs myths like meritocracy, racism, authoritarian-education-is-good-for-society and "big government". That's why they hate social science. They hate biology too. And probably astro-physics.

    John Hopkins University is science in a conservatism-style.

    Conservatism = greed, hate, fear and ignorance

    by Joe B on Fri Jan 28, 2005 at 09:29:18 AM PDT

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    •  Johns Hopkins is where insulin was discovered. (none / 0)

      And good old Hopkins was an abolitionist.  Made himself poor by freeing his slaves, in fact.

      Here, however, is an undergraduate perspective on its politics, time-weathered.

      John Hopkins University is science in a conservatism-style.

      Johns Hopkins University is in a class by itself, politically.  Its School of Advanced International Studies is located in D.C. and as governmentally on the inside as academia can get.  Its official newspaper gets large regular ads from the NSA, just down the road to Annapolis, and the Social Security Administration, past the city's western border.  Milton S. Eisenhower was the president of JHU when his brother was president of the country, and he is remembered very, very well.

      At the same time, most students are nonpolitical.  The college is career-oriented.  Perhaps that means conservative to many of us.  Someone remembered well at Johns Hopkins University is its only graduate to become President, and a graduate graduate, Woodrow Wilson.  Who was he?  The man who became governor of NJ from being president of Princeton.  The Southerner who broke the Yankee lock on the White House saying that while racism was terrible, forbidding it would cause another civil war.  The President who won a second term on the slogan "He Kept Us Out of War", then went to war, losing a million Americans.  The President who encouraged the separate peace of Germany with the new Soviet regime, and then invaded Russia.  (Did you know America invaded Russia in 1918?  Joe, you probably did.  But if you really went to Johns Hopkins, you wouldn't say it except in your paper, if you valued - not your grade but your reputation as a person who makes any sense intellectually, even though everyone in the room probably knows it, too.)

      Woodrow Wilson also supported the principle of self-determination that made Eastern Europe independent and advocated the League of Nations until he nearly died of it.

      Johns Hopkins students are bright and know it.  They're internationalist.  They're realist in the extreme.  Most quirky of all, though, to paraphrase Wilson (and to generalize), they feel they ought to remake the world in the spitting image of the world they know. That doesn't mean they are conservative in general, it just means that their faith in science includes faith in the scientific consensus, arrived at by the best and the brightest and immovable so long as their lungs draw breath.  (I think that paraphrases McGeorge Bundy.  Any questions?)

      "I looked and saw and wondered why/my city was gone."  Chrissie Hynde

      •  Paul Wolfowitz (none / 0)

        was, arguably, the best known Dean of the Paul Nitze SAIS (School of Advanced International Studies) at Johns Hopkins until he became undersecretary of the DoD under Rumsfeld in the Bush administration.  During his tenure at Johns Hopkins, he and other neocons hatched their plans for the world, which can be seen at Project for a New American Century, better known as PNAC

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