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  •  Wow - Wilson is rated... (none / 1)

    as great or near great by 28 of 29 historians who voted in a survey in 1996 by Arthur Schlesinger!

    This is the first time I've ever heard this kind of appraisal.  His accomplishments seem to carry a lot of weight with experts. Schlesinger quoted FDR on our top-rated presidents:

    "All our great presidents," said Franklin D. Roosevelt, "were leaders of thought at times when certain ideas in the life of the nation had to be clarified." So Washington embodied the idea of federal union, Jefferson and Jackson the idea of democracy, Lincoln union and freedom, Cleveland rugged honesty. Theodore Roosevelt and Wilson, said FDR, were both "moral leaders, each in his own way and his own time, who used the presidency as a pulpit."  

    He also quotes Wilson himself: "I do not believe," said Wilson, "that any man can lead who does not act . . . under the impulse of a profound sympathy with those whom he leads -- a sympathy which is insight -- an insight which is of the heart rather than of the intellect."  

    That alone sure disqualifies Bush!

    •  Read a few (none / 0)

      books about the times and you will see why Wilson was utterly bad.  I recommend Over Here by David Kennedy and 1919 by Eliot Asinof.  Both are excellent reads and both display how Wilson's "morals" were very single focused and bad for the people at the time (and the people of the world under the depression he ended up enabling).  Wilson allowed his morals and ideals to sell the Germans down the river in order to get a few scraps of his 14 points even though he knew what the consequences would be.
      •  Also see "Lies My Teacher Told Me" (none / 0)

        by Dr. James W. Loewen. (His Homepage).

        He specifically addresses the "Wilson Myth" and attributes it to poor history textbooks.

        From pages 12 and 13:

          What we did not learn about Woodrow Wilson is even more remarkable.  When I ask my college students to tell me what they recall about President Wilson, they respond with enthusiasm.  They say that Wilson led our country reluctantly into World War I and after the war led the struggle nationally and internationally to establish the League of Nations.  They associate Wilson with progressive causes like women's suffrage.  A handful of students recall the Wilson administration's Palmer Raids against left-wing unions. But my students seldom know or speak about two antidemocratic policies that Wilson carried out: his racial segregation of the federal government and his military interventions in foreign countries.  
          Under Wilson, the United States intervened in Latin America more often than at any other time in our history.  We landed troops in Mexico in 1914, Hati in 1915, the Dominican Republic in 1916, Mexico again in 1916 (and nine more times before the end of Wilson's presidency), Cuba in 1917, and Panama in 1918.  Throughout his administration Wilson maintained forces in Nicaragua, using them to determine Nicaragua's president and to force passage of a treaty preferential to the United States

        From page 17:

          At home, Wilson's racial policies disgraced the office he held.  His Republican predecessors had routinely appointed blacks to important offices, including those of port collector for New Orleans and the District of Columbia and register of the treasury.  Presidents sometimes appointed African Americans as postmasters, particularly in southern towns with large black populations.
        <snip...>
        Woodrow Wilson, for whom many African Americans voted in 1912, changed all that.  A southerner, Wilson had been president of Princeton, the only major northern university that refused to admit blacks.  He was an outspoken white supremacist - his wife was even worse - and told "darky" stories in cabinet meetings.  His administration submitted a legislative program intended to curtail the civil rights of African Americans, but Congress would not pass it. Unfazed, Wilson used his power as chief executive to segregate the federal government. He appointed southern whites to offices traditionally reserved for blacks.  Wilson personally vetoed a clause on racial equality in the Covenant of the League of Nations.  The one occasion on which Wilson met with African American leaders in the White House ended in a fiasco  as the president virtually threw the visitors out of his office.

        George W. Bush - the Percy Wetmore of presidents.

        by rmx2630 on Thu Oct 13, 2005 at 12:45:23 PM PDT

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    •  hard core racist (none / 0)

      Wasn't Wilson a hard core racist and xenophobe, even by the 'standards' of the day ?
      •  from wikipedia (none / 0)

        Wilson's attitude on racial issues is generally regarded as a stain on his reputation...His administration instituted segregation in federal government for the first time since Abraham Lincoln began desegregation in 1863, and required photographs from job applicants to determine their race. Wilson also regarded those whom he termed "hyphenated Americans" (German-Americans, Irish-Americans, etc.) with suspicion: "Any man who carries a hyphen about with him carries a dagger that he is ready to plunge into the vitals of this Republic whenever he gets ready."

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