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"He knows nothing, and thinks that he knows. I neither know nor think that I know. In this latter particular, I seem to have a slight advantage" - Socrates
by benb on Wed Nov 02, 2005 at 11:25:19 PM PDT
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Similarly, we have the eclipse experiment of 1919. If Einstein's theory of gravitation were bogus, star positions as recorded during the eclipse would be spatially equivalent to their positions recorded prior to the eclipse. But according to Einstein's theory, the mass of our sun would be sufficient to "bend" the light of distant stars as it passed the sun. This theory by its nature gives rise to such a risky prediction. It is therefore attributed as a scientific theory. The severity of the test one can devise for a theory defines its scientific nature.
Time lost is always a disadvantage that is bound in some way to weaken him who loses it. -Clausewitz
by Malachite on Wed Nov 02, 2005 at 11:49:07 PM PDT
In God we trust. All others must pay cash.
by yet another liberal on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 09:30:15 AM PDT
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by eunichorn on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 11:41:22 AM PDT
I understand that Relativity has experiments that prove it. But they are evidence of the theory, not the theory itself. Just as evolution is a theory and need not articulate its evidence when described. However, it can be articulated when we have a debate. My side of the debate is presented here.
by benb on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 02:06:43 PM PDT
Base (building block) sequences change from species to species in the same protein or gene sequences. The change in a particular protein or nucleic acid is a measure of the divergence of those species. The fosil record also shows the divergence of species.
Comparing the evolutionary trees generated from fosil evidence with the tree results gathered from the biochemical analysis of existing species yields compatible results that confirm the correctness of the fosil evidence.
The same results from two very different techniques. When both biochemistry and the fosil record provide the same results for the divergence of existing species, then the need for falsifiablity is satisfied as is the requirement for prediction.
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by OmegaHydroxy on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 04:18:26 PM PDT
For example, is George Bush the president of the US? (Notwithstanding stolen elections, etc). The probability of this being true is very close to 100%, and the probability of it being false is close to 0%. But, it is never zero. There is a non-zero probability that any arbitrary crazy-ass thing you can think of is true.
The problem, though, is that the above is no way to run a thinking mind in the real world from day to day. You have to make real binary decisions about whether to do something or not do something, and you can't be constantly confused by doubting reality, so most of these probabilities from an epistemological standpoint can just be rounded off to a 0 or a 1 so you can get some actual work done.
Evolution is both a fact and a theory. From a fact perspective, evolution as an explanation for life has a probability so close to 100% that the remainder can just be discarded. From a theory perspective, evolution has tremendous predictive power.
In any case, I think the epistemological underpinnings of science are something that most people don't understand, and the idea that nothing is certain in science can be frightening and confusing (and misleading if used for devious purposes as the IDers do).
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by Sparhawk on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 09:40:56 AM PDT
Brilliant. I want it for a sig.
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by JLongs on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 01:44:28 PM PDT
by Sparhawk on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 04:15:01 PM PDT
by JLongs on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 04:35:59 PM PDT
;-)
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by Lestatdelc on Thu Nov 03, 2005 at 06:31:45 PM PDT
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