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  •  nice work -- but there is more we must do (4.00 / 2)

    I especially like that you have been able to demonstrate what appears to be coordination between Talon & Bush-Cheney   - the idea of "2nd media source"  may be an important clue to unravelling things.

    As a teacher, there was one thing that caught my eye.  Bear with me.  Talon reports an FEC complaint against Kerry and CBS.  This is an example ofa  ture statement that gives the reader a distorted impression.  Anyone can file and FEC complaint, but it may have absolutely no bearing in reality.   One will similarly read stories about "10,000 people complain to FCC" -- when it turns out that the 10,000 are really cloned messages distributed by someone like Dobson, and that the content is identical  -- in otherswords, what we call an astroturf response, appearing to be an uprising from the 'grass roots" but not really.

    As we continue to expose how they operate, the other side will become somewhat more careful in how they go about doingexactly the same things.  In other words, rather than a Talon which is linked to a clearly partisan GOPUSA, they will set up something like their phony lobbying groups that are really fronts for major corporate interest.  Or they may even work at establishing "legends" to use the old Le Carre expression --  set someone or something up for a year or two BEFORE you use them for this kind of purpose .. let them establish "credibility" without being subject.   In a sense one can argue that until his question to the president Gannon/Guckert had succeed in establishing a "legend" only he was sloppy and it was far too easy to walk the cat back, at least to a point.l

    here's the real danger.   Right now we can trace what they are scrubbing about which we already know something.  What we don't know is how much more scrubbing is going on for groups and people we have not yet been able to identify  -- in otgher words, they are cleaning up the "legends" before we can identify the operatives,

    I wish I had the time [I don't] to go through a complete list of all organizations accredited to White House, even any others with day passes [although I don't know if they will release that information] and start a major exploration for inforamtiona bout them  -- who has changed registration on web pages recently, where have web sites undergone major alteration since Gannon/Guckert broke.  If they had any ciompetence, G/G & Talon would be only one example of this kind of manipulation, just like when we discovered that "journalists" were being paid, we quickly found out that there were more than just poor old Armstrong Williams.

    Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH! If impeachment is off the table, so is democracy

    by teacherken on Fri Feb 25, 2005 at 06:18:50 AM PDT

    •  you've got a great point (none / 0)

      here's the real danger.   Right now we can trace what they are scrubbing about which we already know something.  What we don't know is how much more scrubbing is going on for groups and people we have not yet been able to identify  -- in otgher words, they are cleaning up the "legends" before we can identify the operatives,

      Plus on our side is I think their hubris may lead them to conclude that liberals are incompetent.

      Here's hoping.

      In Part 3 I hope to get to Talon's "October surprise...s" - the irony of reporting on an FEC claim being filed against CBS is thick indeed.

      "The revolution's just an ethical haircut away..." Billy Bragg

      by grannyhelen on Fri Feb 25, 2005 at 06:42:30 AM PDT

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