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  •  Holy crap (4.00 / 4)

    I can't believe that abortion bill.  Drugs for the 'child'? WTF?  That's incredible.  Off to write some letters...
    •  As I understand it (4.00 / 2)

      it is a very difficult procedure, possibly limiting the ability of many clinics from performing the abortion.

      Perhaps some of our medical professionials on dKos can enlighten us.

      •   I'm not a licensed medical professional (4.00 / 4)

        but according to the text of the bill, there would be three possible ways to practice within the requirements of the law:

        • Feticide by a dioxin injection to the heart on the day before the abortion -- still possible in a clinic, but a procedure currently performed by only a few highly skilled and experienced specialists in later abortion. For most women this would mean traveling a considerable distance and accepting a somewhat higher degree of medical risk, and the abortion procedure itself would become much more expensive;

        • Actual anesthetization of the fetus, a procedure that incurs a considerably elevated degree of medical risk to the woman, and that can only be performed in a fully equipped hospital setting. Since in most states abortion is performed only in freestanding clinics, it would be nearly impossible for most women to find hospitals willing to admit them for this procedure, and of course it would be astronomically expensive;

        • The doctor offers fetal anesthesia, as s/he is required by law to do, and the woman replies, "No, thank you."
    •  So sad (4.00 / 3)

      When a woman needs to terminate after 20 weeks, something is going very very wrong wtih the pregnancy.

      A horribly sad situation for the family is made that much harder by these awful people.

    •  Mission creep... (4.00 / 3)

      One overlooked aspect of this bill is the increasing tightening of the window for legal abortion. First, the "partial-birth abortion" puts limitations on third trimester procedures. This bill sort of moves the window from second trimester abortions (24-26 weeks) back a month to 20 weeks.

      They will keep chiseling away at the window of legality. But I don't think they plan to eliminate abortion entirely as that is one of their perennial issues that keep getting them votes.

      BTW, Planned Parenthood says that only one point five percent (1.5%) of abortions are performed after 20 weeks.

      creep, creep...

      "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

      by RonV on Sat Mar 12, 2005 at 04:36:37 PM PDT

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      •  yes, there are several key points (none / 1)

        continuing to define the fetus as a child and moving back viability as mentioned above

        perhaps the more pernicious is this notion of being able to feel pain, intended to continue to criminalize abortion and those who perform the procedure. Frist has talked about this issue of being able to feel pain. It was the basis of creating the outcry over "partial birth abortion" and attacking the democrats that voted against criminalization.

        The primary reason any number of abortions are performed after 20 weeks is because of lack of access or lack of funding. 90% of US counties have no abortion provider. The remainder are cases of severe deformity, or where the mother's life is in danger.

    •  In your letters (4.00 / 2)

      you might want to quote liberally from this report.

      According to the latest research on the subject, a fetus is already naturally sedated.

      In a paper that will be published in an academic journal, Mellor will suggest that in mammals the foetal brain is kept in a deep sleep throughout pregnancy by a combination of natural sedatives and anaesthetics secreted by the brain and placenta.

      "Consciousness appears for the first time after birth. We conclude the embryo and foetus cannot suffer before or during birth. Suffering can only occur in the newborn when the onset of breathing oxygenates its tissues," Mellor said.

      In his paper Mellor, director of the Animal Welfare, Science and Bioethics Centre at Massey University in New Zealand, will focus on the implications of his research for the welfare of farm animals.

      He is writing a second paper about sentience and consciousness in the human foetus, which will be published later.

      Not that the Congressional antiabortion mob has any interest in anything as boring as science, but still . . .
         

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