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  •  the radio show discusses treason (24+ / 0-)

    and says that the House Committee successfully demonstrated treason by some of the wealthiest and most powerful families in the US.  What implicitly came out of the House committee was, "We know who you are, you just step back to your money-making, and leave FDR alone, and we will not convict you of treason and hang you."  

    So they did.

    •  No statute of lims on treason (11+ / 0-)

      factses! we loves them forever!

      by cskendrick on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 04:24:14 PM PDT

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    •  class (5+ / 0-)
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      copymark, JuliaAnn, GreyHawk, Erevann, kraant

       FDR was considered to be a traitor to his class.  That he let these guys off might be attributed to the pain that might have afflicted on FDR and further evidence the class DOES matter in America contrary to what the so-called anti-class warfare GOP says today.  It mattered enough then to let traitors walk free. :-(

      •  I'm pretty sure... (5+ / 0-)
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        there was some serious economic and the production of needed war materials that were mitigating factors in the whole scenario.

        I'm not 100% on that, but it seems likely.

        Síocháin! It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

        by Erevann on Wed Jul 25, 2007 at 06:28:00 PM PDT

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        •  nothing is clearly one way or another (0+ / 0-)

            This happened long before the war was on the table, however, all of this was based on Butler's word against the go-between and, in Congressional testimony the go-between denied suggesting anything like what Butler accused him of, and then the go-between conveniently dies...of natural causes we can be sure, can't we.  No tape recording...no evidence other than one man's word against another.
             Besides FDR was experimenting with programs - the CCC, WPA, TVA, etc. - in an effort to turn the economy around.  The oligarcy that was the most pissed seems to have been those who objected to taking us off the gold standard but that was never a threat to the fortunes they had accumulated in the post-civil war era.  
            You need to remember that FDR was borrowing money to do this pump-priming (borrowing money to hire the unemployed to do government projects such as the Hoover Dam and thus adding buying power to consumers in an effort to rebuild the market for manufactured goods, made by companies that went bankrupt during the crash of '29) and so had a great interest in the moneyed people buying treasury bonds.  
            Without that influx of money there would have been no New Deal and the Depression might have gone on far longer, sparking the kind of civic unrest that resulted in the overturned democracies in Spain, Italy and Germany.  The Great Depression was world wide and we were the lucky one to come out of it with our democracy still intact - these other countries were not so lucky.
            Those were very unsettled times.  The Communist Party was strong as was the Liberty League, a front for fascism not to mention the KKK and other racist groups.  Before we lower the boom on FDR we need to sail a few miles in his times.

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