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  •  Clinton a Republican? (0+ / 0-)

      Well, I guess so...but now what do we call those folks who fought every move he made the whole time he was in office and tried to drive him out of office?  Were they the Democrats...or mugwomps???
      This is nonsense!  You will not find any politician who does not support corporate interests because corporations are the largest employers in the country and as corporations go so goes the consumer economy. Support of the corporate structure does not mean that corporations ought to be allowed to screw consumers and destroy small businesses and polute the air, water and earth which is precisely what Republicans are willing to let corporations do and which Clinton fought against all during his presidency. If you don't believe me ask George Will or Rush Limbaugh.
      You can call anyone anything, but you cannot change the history, although you can make a fool of yourself by taking extreme positions that defy all reason and reality...but, of course, you win points if you are Karl Rove's man.   :-(

    •  I'll give Clinton credit on environment not (0+ / 0-)

      much else. The direction of corporations now is much like it was before the depression. It's a house of cards. Don't confuse the republican political class hatred of Clinton with the corporate support Clinton enjoyed. When they saw they could get even more with Bush the corporates went for it. That doesn't absolve Clinton. I believe we can and should defeat the republicans without deifying the Clintons. Of course you believe your governance should be decided by 'bodiless persons' who now hold more electoral power than your vote because all politicians support corporations? it is not so much me that defies reason and reality but in fact you are a player in the reason for an unnecessary, detrimental and hopefully short lived reality.

      "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self." --Aristotle

      by java4every1 on Thu Jul 26, 2007 at 03:56:01 PM PDT

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      •  somewhere a disconnect... (0+ / 0-)

        Of course you believe your governance should be decided by 'bodiless persons' who now hold more electoral power than your vote because all politicians support corporations? it is not so much me that defies reason and reality but in fact you are a player in the reason for an unnecessary, detrimental and hopefully short lived reality.

          Last I checked the voting rolls do not include corporations so these "bodiless person" still cannot vote.  

        for an unnecessary, detrimental and hopefully short lived reality

          I don't know what you mean by this.  If you think for a moment that the corporate structure and laws governing it are going to be changed in any significant way in the near future I want some of that stuff you are smoking.  Help me out here because you have lost me.
         

      •  on track? (0+ / 0-)

        The direction of corporations now is much like it was before the depression.

        If "by direction" you mean making money, I agree.  If you look at the history of the distributionn of wealth in this country SINCE COLONIAL TIMES you will find that the rich are getting richer and the poorer getting poorer but that has nothing to do with corporations.  Corporations are not rich; the people who own them are!  It is they who are taking advantage of all kinds of aspects in this economical structure that gives the advantage to those who have over those who have not...the corporate structure being only one of MANY.

        It's a house of cards..

        Don't know what you mean by this unless you are into apocalypical things.

        Don't confuse the republican political class hatred of Clinton with the corporate support Clinton enjoyed.

        ,,,as does EVERY OTHER politician.  If you will check the timing of Clinton's corporate support you will find that a significant amount of it came AFTER THE ELECTIONS.  It's like buying a ticket on the winning horse AFTER THE RACE WAS RUN!
          Their PRE-election money went to the opposition but after the elections went against them they quickly "helped Clinton pay off his election debts"...aka garnering a place at the bargaining table.  But if you think Clinton did not know WHO gave WHEN, you can bet his handlers did!
          But, my friend, if you have your dagger out for EVERY politician that has supporters who make their money through corporations, you will have a lot of killing to do and you will need to take on the UNIONS as well, since they are, by your measure, "complicite in the corporate conspiracy."

         

        •  You would have held a high rank (0+ / 0-)

          at Jonestown. Your vote is about as good as the owned message you've swallowed. Corporate influence on elections and policy goes far beyond the act of voting. The depression led to a lot of corporate regulation followed by the greatest expansion the economy had ever known. Of course people make money through corporations after all a corporation is simply a tool but it's a tool that has been badly abused and becoming worse.
          read here:
          And here
          Obviously your too young to remember a time when others did not decide how productive you would be and for how little. Unions built this country. They created the middle class you exploit now. Even the experts know the economy is a pyramid scheme about to collapse. In any event, you can sit in your smugness until the walls cave in and maybe that's a smart approach since if your right it's inevitable.

          "I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self." --Aristotle

          by java4every1 on Fri Jul 27, 2007 at 02:24:54 PM PDT

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          •  don't I wish (0+ / 0-)

            Obviously your too young to remember a time when others did not decide how productive you would be and for how little.

              Yeah, I guess so. Being the son of the secretary of CIO Oil Workers Union #227 with a mother who was a member of the Railroad Brotherhood and born in 1933 pretty much sheltered me from all the things you were exposed to such as the place organized labor has played in this country.  I guess I need to sit at your feet and learn.

            Even the experts know the economy is a pyramid scheme about to collapse.

              And while you are preparing my education you might make a list of the "experts" who know so much about the future of our economy.  :-)  

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