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  •  Credential checking (none)
    That shouldn't be possible- they check credentials at several places, because there are six different access levels- they check when you first go in, when you try to go upstairs, when you try to enter the hall or floor.  If you give away your credential and leave the floor to go to the bathroom, you might not get back in.  Of course, maybe they're being lax when there are three times the normal number of people trying to get in.
    •  Apparently (none)
      A lot of restrictions arn't working so well, the protest cage included.

      There is a heaven, but ill never get there... i keep respawning...

      by Sandals on Thu Jul 29, 2004 at 10:11:30 AM PDT

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    •  Not lax (none)
      The creds don't have a photo ID, and they only check to see if it's legit. You need to go to the bathroom, grab anyone's cred on the floor to make sure you can get back in.

      There are twenty people in a group. They get to the floor. One person collects 15 and heads back outside. There are still 5 creds in the hall in case anyone needs to step aside for whatever.

      And no one checks creds inside the hall.

      •  Hey, why didn't AQ think of that (none)
        Yes, I noticed the creds didn't have a photo attached. Millions for ninja suited cops, all kinds of security checks outside and the ONE, BASIC  security check isn't done.

        The inconvience they caused to hundred of thousands of Bostonians nearly shut down the city. But an AQ sleeper with risin or another chemical and no creds could walk in with a friend.

        You can't drive from Columbia Rd into the city because of the convention, a five minute drive. Yet, creds are being switched like trade show press passes. Great.

        That is, what I would suggest, unreal. Unfucking real.

        •  security (none)
          Credentials aside, the security is very tight- no one would be able to sneak anything deadly in, they have dogs, metal detectors, x-ray machines, and hand checks of all equipment at the entrances- turn on all cameras and laptops to make sure they're real, etc.  A sleeper might be able to get in, but he couldn't do anything except maybe punch someone.  The more likely scenario due to the lack of ID checks is that some of the protesters will get creds and disrupt the proceedings.
          •  Not if you plan (none)
            I won't go into the details, but believe me, not tying people to creds is a security gap. Sure, they check stuff, but Richard Reid wore a shoe bomb. With enough time and planning, anyone can do anything. It's basic security to have photo based id's

            And a disrupted convention is a security failure.

            But believe me, if people can smuggle heroin, they could do the same in any building. At least with a photo ID, you know the people vetted are vetted. And  also, why are people walking around without creds, period? Why aren't people forced to have creds in the building? You can't walk around a trade show without a pass.

            •  we do the same thing (none)
              when we work at convention centers (i work for an ad agency) getting ready for a trade show. can't get in without creds, you throw anyone's on when you have to go outside. when we need another person in, we have once credentialled guy stay in and the other one goes out with two passes.
              then you get a little neck-hanger deal and leave it hanging out of your pocket, like you put the ID in your pocket. worked for two days at this year's CES in Vegas. I was chatting with security guards while I took a smoke break.
    •  even more (none)
      It's definitely going to be more packed tonight, because the people who are credential swapping are using old credentials to prevent anyone from noticing that they have no badges (The credentials look the same except for the date).  So today, there will be the maximum number of old credentials to switch out.

      The reason this is bad is that there are only enough seats for the delegates themselves.  Everybody else on the floor has to stand.  The floor completely crowds over with the non-credentialed people, and last night, when someone felt dizzy from the body heat on the floor, the paramedics were having trouble getting through the aisles.

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