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  •  For those who live in the Dakotas, what (2+ / 0-)

    are the differences that account for a closer race in North Dakota as opposed to South Dakota?  I thought South Dakota had more urban areas compared to North Dakota--so it seems like it would be a closer race in South Dakota.  

    "Somewhere in Texas a village is missing its idiot."

    by Gramarye on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 12:04:51 PM PDT

    •  Well, the history geek in me... (2+ / 0-)
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      ...looks to the precedent of the Progressive Era, when South Dakota was pretty Progressive (went for TR in 1912), but in North Dakota...whoo!  The Nonpartisal League dominated both mainstream political parties in the 1910s.  As in Minnesota and its DFL, where the powerfully progressive Farmer-Labor party eventually merged with the Ds, in North Dakota, the same happened with the NPL.  In fact, the official name there is the Democratic-NPL Party.

      And yeah, as similar as ND is to us, they're also similar to Montana, probably in some ways we are not.


      "No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream." --MLK

      by Progressive Witness on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 12:18:29 PM PDT

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    •  I can't quite figure it out myself (0+ / 0-)

      There must be a subtle demographic difference that I don't understand.  Also, I think there's a bit more progressive radio in North Dakota, with Ed Schultz on in their eastern population centers, while South Dakota doesn't have any progressive radio (Ed might be on in Rapid City, but that's about it).  

      Also, I'm not sure how it is in North Dakota, but the farther west you go in South Dakota, the more people vote like Wyoming.  Since our second-largest population center (Rapid City/Black Hills region) is next to Wyoming and generally has that kind of mind-set, it's like a big anchor dragging down Democrats in the rest of the state (that region tends to go 60%-70% Republican).  Granted, there are a lot of strong liberals and Democrats West River, but they're really outnumbered.  Combine that with no similar Democratic stronghold (the reservations are overwhelmingly Democratic, but less populated than the Rapid City region), and it skews an otherwise mildly Republican state into (usually) hardcore Republican.

      I might be misreading that, but that's my take.  Still, I can't understand the discrepancy between ND and SD, since I doubt we're all that different.  

      I have a feeling that if Democrats would start paying attention to us, it would pay dividends.  Retail politics work really well here, but if nobody shows up or builds a ground game...

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