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  •  is the GOP now a Southern party? n/t (3+ / 0-)

    McCain / Palin - Unstable / Unable

    by KnotIookin on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 01:56:42 PM PDT

    •  It will be in a couple weeks (0+ / 0-)

      That's all they'll have left.

    •  Only if you count UT/ID as "Southern" (2+ / 0-)
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      We're going to need a Solid Rockies and a Solid Farm Belt to go with our solid Northeast and Pacific, before we can call them truly isolated.

      REPUBLICANS: The Older White Meat.

      by AdmiralNaismith on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 02:03:37 PM PDT

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      •  Kevin Phillips (0+ / 0-)

        discussed how displaced Oklahomans travelled to CA in the dust bowel and then up to Idaho and areas nearby thereafter. Thus, they are tightly connected to the south in their values.

        We're going to need a Solid Rockies and a Solid Farm Belt to go with our solid Northeast and Pacific, before we can call them truly isolated.

        The desert southwest states and Colorado are quite favorable due to a combination of migration from New England states and very large Hispanic populations. Other upper plains states (MT, ND, SD) are favorable due to more agreeable German and Scandinavian populations. States like Idaho may be among the toughest to gain ground in...

        UT is an interesting case. Many of the early Mormons were descended from New Englanders. However, I believe that they were often from oppressed groups with in New England Society. As this movement is so tightly based in values originating in New England culture I suspect UT might be tough...

    •  There's a chunk right in the middle (0+ / 0-)

      from Idaho, Wyoming to Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma

    •  Not exactly (0+ / 0-)

      Their best region is a weird 0 shaped district surrounding CO and NM ....

      Per Pollster, Obama is under 30 in only 2 states: UT and ID, and under 35 in just 2 more: WY and OK

      •  blacks... (1+ / 0-)
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        The black population is helping a lot in the deep south. I suspect they will become a southern populist party with support from whites in the deep south, parts of the mountain west and parts of Appalachia. Appalachia is an interesting wild card right now. Despite what we saw in the primaries, Obama seems to be gaining ground there. WV looks possibly winnable and KY is down under 10 points. I think Appalachian needed time to feel comfortable with Obama but over time they will come round. Evangelicals in the deep south and the very conservative western states seem to be the only demographic Obama can't make headway with!

    •  Southern populist I think (1+ / 0-)
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      Anthony Segredo

      is the opening they'll slide into... Not too many people are interested in voting for fiscal libertarians about now... I suspect Mike Huckabee might be their nominee in 2012...

      If not the Republicans, than some other new party will fill that role and become the primary opposition...

      This parallels the Republicans in 1932 and thereafter, who were reduced to a northern moderate to liberal existence.

    •  It's a party for uneducated whites n/t (0+ / 0-)

      Conservatism = greed, hate, fear and ignorance

      by Joe B on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 05:40:45 PM PDT

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