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  •  Is the Obama campaign punishing (0+ / 0-)

    Tennessee and Arkansas for voting for Hillary in the primary?

    So I see only tatters of clearness through a pervading obscurity - Annie Dillard -6.88, -5.33

    by illinifan17 on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 02:01:48 PM PDT

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    •  lol, I doubt that (4+ / 0-)

      Obama didnt campaign in either state in the primaries, because it was likely they would vote for Clinton. Actually, never mind, I think Michelle campaigned there, that's when the TN GOP ran that ad smearing her, that I think even Corker and Alexander didnt like. I think it's just about allocating resources. One disadvantage to the expanded map is there are some states Obama cant visit at all.

    •  More Than Likely.... (3+ / 0-)
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      ....they just made false assumptions about their electability in those states, just as they did in West Virginia until enough polls showed them it was within reach.  But I think Arkansas and Tennessee are apples and oranges in terms of Obama's would-be chances.  Arkansas was always gonna be an uphill slog...but post-2000 Tennessee was very unlikely to ever turn blue.

      •  Also Senator Pryor (4+ / 0-)
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        is unopposed - as to the situations in NC and GA - so there is no need to appear for him.

        All my relatives are voting Obama, except one sister who defected to the religious right, and I really think he will do unexpectedly well.

        Kos, the R congressional district in NW Arkansas has been that way since The War when it housed the Union sympathizers.  Like Eastern Tennessee, its cultural heritage is Republican, and not a Reagan "republican" one.

        God and ego are not equivalent expressions of reality.

        by Othniel on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 02:31:28 PM PDT

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        •  There is a Green running against............... (7+ / 0-)

          ..........Pryor, Rebekah Kennedy, and the one Republican Representative also has a Green Party candidate running against him too.

          I live in North West Arkansas, in a very rural area. And one major block to Arkansas becoming a bastion of progressive thought has alot to do with this being a hotbed of religiousity(Baptist/fundamentalist/Apostolics and some of the least educated preachers you can imagine drawing paychecks) and decades of being left out of the American economic mainstream. There are small pockets of out and out racism and some militia types too. But only in small numbers.

          Mostly the people I have talked to are self identified Democrats, and almost always add that they are also conservative. Most have heard the lies and rumors about Obama getting his vast wealth from Muslim countries (where else could he get that amount?) and all that other garbage that has infested our emails and airwaves too. And I'm sorry to say most believe it as fact.

 a person, everyone has been keen and willing to talk to me and listen to what i've said. There have been many many long and good conversations. Some have even taken to calling me up to get 'my' take on something they just heard.

          People here seldom have computers to look up stuff.(it is debateable if they would even if they had one tho) The only things they hear is primarily from the likes of Rush, Hannity, and O'Reily, so this is what they believe and repeat. Most are firmly against abortion and gays for religious reasons, and it is hard to get past that thinking.

          I haven't run into anyone that thinks anything of the state not being part of the ad wars or heavily courted by one side or the other.

          Mostly they want to hear why I think the wars are immoral and Bush is a liar and thief. Many have stated that they see my side of the argument and agree.

          What I want is for some legislation that will force media to tell only the truth and stop the propaganda coming right out of the White House, it is against the law even now, but it isn't enforced. If folks around here had better sources to learn from, they would be alot better off and no doubt Arkansas would become far more progressive.

          Don't forget that this state was heavily dominated by the DLC/top down/corporate friendly type of Democrats for a long long time. And Arkansas isn't one of the 'important' states that the Clintons favored. They just used us to get where they wanted to be.

          I thank my lucky stars Howard Dean has gotten this 50 state project off the ground.

          Arkansas will be turning progressive as soon as they hear the good news.

    •  Geebuz! (9+ / 0-)

      He doesn't have unlimited money and the mountain west looked like a better long shot.  Democrats have smashed themselves against the southern strategy for 40 years now, I'm glad Obama went west.

      Sarah Palin's voice now makes my TV automatically mute itself.

      by Jeffersonian on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 02:12:42 PM PDT

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    •  No. That would be bizarre. (0+ / 0-)

      I think Barack is focusing on states he is more likely to win and states with competitive Congressional races (Nevada, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio, Missouri).

      Sure, he might pick up Arkansas but if he's even more likely to get West Virginia, Montana, or North Dakota.  

      McCain is this year's Alan Keyes.

      by chicago jeff on Sat Oct 25, 2008 at 02:19:01 PM PDT

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