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  •  Exactly. (2+ / 0-)
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    PinHole, Rick Winrod

    I'm sure Chertoff has eaten some fruit that was picked by some illegal immigrant.  Should we give him shit about that, too?

    Grow up, people.

    •  that's not the same thing. (2+ / 0-)
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      mmacdDE, Neon Mama

      think further than that -- we're just regular people, we're likely most concerned that anyone we hire is honest.

      chertoff is secretary of homeland security.  if i were in his position, i'd be very concerned who walks in and out of my home and has access to any papers i might have in it.  or just as bad, access to my family.  terrorism is allegedly such a big threat, and yet undocumented workers waltz in and out of the HS sec's home?  what does that say?

      furthermore just in general, a government politician can't be caught with undocumented workers doing labour for them.  it's not like this is the first time that happened.

      •  Is a natural-born citizen documented? (0+ / 0-)

        Honesty has nothing to do with it.  Being required to show an identification card to exercise a human right is un-Constitutional--i.e. the Constitution does not give the agents of government the authority to require that.  It does grant the authority to regulate commerce between the states and foreign nations, but extending that authority to declare workers illegal on the basis of their nationality is really a stretch.

        Not that there's no precedent.  After all Africans were once considered non-persons or even a partial one.

        How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

        by hannah on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 07:55:48 AM PST

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        •  "The Congress shall have the power (0+ / 0-)
          to regulate commerce with foreign nations"

          "workers" if paid = "commerce"

          "nationality" <- "foreign nations"

          The commerce clause is broadly construed by the Supreme Court.

          From the "American College Dictionary" of 1967

          "nation....L: s. nātio race, people, nation, orig., birth"

          •  True. And conservatives would be the first (0+ / 0-)

            to argue that the commerce clause has been too widely applied.

            We can exclude the citizens of some nations and do.  But, once they are here, what justification is there for their segregation?

            How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

            by hannah on Thu Dec 11, 2008 at 09:57:12 AM PST

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        •  human rights (0+ / 0-)

          i meant "honest" as in "not likely to steal or snoop".

          human rights are a completely different debate, where i am inclined to agree with you.

          but chertoff didn't fail to check because he's in favour of human rights over immigration control.

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