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  •  It really is more about the individuals who (6+ / 0-)

    are ordered to commit these morally offensive acts than it is about the victims.  The victims can rely on the rightness of their cause, even if it is misguided.  The perpetrators of torture have to confront their own guilt without any social support.

    On the other hand, those that perpetrate torture without incurring a sense of guilt are not the kind of people on whom we want to depend for our national interests.

    How do you tell a predator from a protector? The predator will eat you sooner rather than later.

    by hannah on Tue Jan 27, 2009 at 12:06:39 PM PST

    •  None of the old Nazis on the History Channel (0+ / 0-)

      seem to have too many pangs of guilt.  Sad.  But true. Perpetrators of the worst crime in human history and they find plenty of room in their soul to forgive themselves. They were just following orders, or doing what they felt they had to do given the times and prevailing political structure.  And we did that to the Indians, so who the fuck are we to judge?

      With that said: We're Americans. We learn from our mistakes.  We don't commit genocide anymore.  And that's good.  And we don't torture, and we don't associate with those who do.  At least I don't.  Neither does Barack Obama.

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