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  •  McCain's office staff person (9+ / 0-)

    kept asking me whether I would support torture if it kept Americans safe? Over and over he insisted torture works and had prevented attacks on America.

    And over and over I told him he was wrong and that if America tortured it wasn't America.

    What a pathetic and lost man McCain is to be for torture having been a victim of it himself.

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      the argument that torture doesn't work, aren't we missing an opportunity to state that it is wrong.  It is wrong, therefore whether it works or not is irrelevant.

      "Peace cannot be achieved by force. It can only be achieved by understanding" Albert Einstein

      by BigAlinWashSt on Tue Jan 27, 2009 at 09:02:21 PM PST

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      •  Amen! (2+ / 0-)
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        There's a reason Democrats won massively the last two cycles, and it wasn't because people were desperate for "bipartisanship". --kos

        by Debby on Tue Jan 27, 2009 at 10:00:55 PM PST

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      •  Yes, I told him over and over it was wrong (1+ / 0-)
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        starting with the torture of our men in Vietnam and all of the awful regimes throughout modern history that tortured but he kept changing it back to "it works" argument.

        He used the line of Bush keeping us safe (implying it was through torture) which is when I brought up 9/11 happening on Bush's watch.

        Next thing you know he tried to argue that it was all Clinton's fault because he cut the military budget.

        All the Republican talking points one after an other.

        Sometimes I wonder if these guys really believe this sh*t, but I think a lot of them do.

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