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    But this comes up a lot when I think about it.

    Ok, so:  what if torture did work, for some purposes? could be said to work?

    If it made people talk because they were terrified, and some of what they said was verifiable or useful to security forces? --like the Gestapo going after the resistance?

    In Latin America any number of insurgent, radical and revolutionary movements were broken up by the use of torture, with other forms of repression. But torture was a key strategy of repression I think. And that repression was fairly successful.

    What if torture worked to make people fear authority, and avoid protests or politics, and so it kept the status quo in power?

    When we think about our massive and often brutal and dehumanizing prison system-- that has given up on even a figleaf of rehabilitative justification-- where people die from lack of medical care, where rape is so common we act like it's 'funny,' where racial segregation, racism and gang violence flourish and are reproduced, would we say that it works? that it doesn't work?

    It must work for some purpose-- but not for others-- so maybe we need to identify the goals of torture (or incarceration) in order to discern if they are working, and to what ends...

    Maybe torture works for some things and not for others.

    Human reason is beautiful and invincible --Milosz, Incantation

    by juancito on Tue Jan 27, 2009 at 07:05:19 PM PST

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