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  •  This wasn't about getting information (3+ / 0-)

    When governments torture individuals, it's about terrorizing the population at large.  The stories about what was happening at Abu Ghraib was known in Iraq before it was known over here, through word of mouth.  People being "disappeared" off the streets, and kidnapped dead people being found with drillholes in their heads with their hands tied behind their backs, (this happened after Negroponte showed up in Iraq, surprise, surprise).  This wasn't done to get information, it was to done subjugate and terrorize the population.  Just like happened in Central America.

    If you were going to be tortured, you would tell them whatever you THINK they want to know, not just what you do know.  The accuracy of information is completely unreliable.

    •  I don't accept that (1+ / 0-)
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      MaikeH

      leaders who incite their subordinates to torture and otherwise abuse prisoners and other vulnerable people are motivated by rational concerns. They enjoy hurting people, humiliating, degrading, and breaking them. Their deaths don't move them in the slightest, except perhaps to snicker. They seek entertainment, not the fulfillment of national goals. We have just escaped rule by psychopaths.  

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