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  •  Future of our party? (4.00)
    I find it hard to believe any significant portion of Bush voters, especially in the south, will ever vote for a black man as president. It's sad but true.

    "Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere"

    by Morbo on Wed Nov 03, 2004 at 11:07:01 AM PST

    •  While I hope you're wrong (none)
      I'm afraid you may be right. I wish people would see Obama for who what he is--America in all it's diversity (at least the black and white part), all of it's promise, and hope.

      I wish he was my senator, as someone else mentioned. But at least here in Wisconsin we still have Russ Feingold.

      "The country we carry in our hearts is waiting" --Bruce Springsteen.

      by bdizz on Wed Nov 03, 2004 at 11:22:06 AM PST

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    •  Voting for a black man (none)
      Out of 5 million votes cast in Illinois, Obama got 3.5 million, while Kerry got 2.8 million.  Even assuming that not a single Kerry voter went for Keyes, at least 700,000 Bush voters cast ballots for Obama.
      •  Republicans for Obama (none)
        My parents were two of those voters in Illinois who voted for both Bush and Obama.  And one of my online acquaintances, a white Christian Republican in Oklahoma who is a big Bush supporter (and also a pretty thoughtful guy), said today that he can't wait to vote for Obama for president someday.  When asked why, he gave the following reasons:

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        In no particular order....
         - Very Charasmatic
         - An Excellent Public Speaker
         - His Mother Is From Kansas
         - He Supports "Traditional Marriage"
         - Supports charter schools and private investment in schools...open to vouchers

         It is not because he is a christian because his deffinition of being a christian does not match what I believe.  He believes there are many paths to God. He is not sure there is a Hell.    

    •  A tiny shred of hope (none)
      Maybe, maybe not. Southern Illinois is closer in spirit to Little Rock and Birmingham than it is to Chicago...yet people there voted for a black man with a funny name.

      There's hope.

      •  Are we winning the south now?? (none)
        The answer is no, and we didnt even need to to capture this campaign, it all came down to ohio.  I think we need to stop looking to the south for our votes because they aren't going to happen.  If the Dems want to look anywhere its out west to states like Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada .  These states are going to continue to grow every year, and at the same time get younger and younger, and we need a serious democratic campaign out there.  I'm talking about governorships, and state parties.  Thats where the Dems can make up ground.  Forget about the states like Mississippi, and Alabama, and even Arkansas.
    •  choice in the south (none)
      While it might be hard to believe, it will be even harder to believe that the black majority down there would vote for a white homophobic than an enlightened black man.

      (It might even draw some mainstream attention to voting practives in those regions if it doesn't happen in the next 4 years.)

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