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  •  Its not about nonwhite (none)
    Barak has something special. You can find it in Bill Clinton and (believe it or not) in GWB. I'll give you three guesses at what it is.

    .............nope
    .............nope
    .............buzzz times up!

    The common-man effect. Clinton had it. Bush has it (even though its not genuine). Obama has it.

    As-a-matter-of-fact during some of my Republican co-workers gloating, they mentioned Barak and had nothing but praises for him (it was spooky). I honestly think he could run for the white house in 2012 and win! He might even be one of the strongest choices in 2008. I dare anyone here to name a person who has more political appeal than Obama has right now.

    "We will not succeed in destroying freedom's adversaries if we are divided from freedom's friends." JK

    by Blacklantern on Wed Nov 03, 2004 at 12:05:28 PM PST

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    •  You must not live in the south. (none)
      In public, white people will say nice things about black politicians. But there is no way a black politician is going to win a national election in the south. Ask Steve Gilliard.

      It's a horrible shame, I agree. But I fear it's the truth. Racism in this country runs way, way too deep.

      We just went thru a week of discussion of subtle, KKK-like GOP schemes to limit black participation in the vote. You think black folks didn't know what those Ohio "challengers" were supposed to do? Man, everybody knows the goal was to keep the uppity blacks from voting.

      Who raised a peep? Nobody in the media, and hardly anybody in the Democratic camp. The bloggers got angry, but nobody else gave a fuck.

      -What have you got that a man could drink with just a minimum risk of blindness and death.

      by Toadvine on Wed Nov 03, 2004 at 12:15:37 PM PST

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    •  Yep. (none)
      Another one: Paul Wellstone.

      A lot of people were stunned at Wellstone's continued success in Minnesota.  He seemed so far left of the rural and range parts of the state that it seemed counter-intuitive.  But they voted for him.  Twice.  And I am convinced they would have a third time as well.

      But he talked to people.  he didn't talk about issues.  He talked about people to people, and the issues became an obvious extension of his life.  That's contagious.

      I don't think Bush has got that at all, even the fake variety.  It's just not something that you can fake.  People can be brain washed into thinking he has it, especially by people they trust (think pastor here), but the unease oozes out for all to see.  They cover that with gloating.  It's empty.

      I still remember when he was campaigning and it was reported he had MS.  He was walking with a limp from it.  I saw a steel worker in Eveleth, very blue collar, very middle-american.  When  asked about the MS, he said "If he can't walk, we'll carry him on our shoulders.".  That's not just support, that's love.  Ask those Bush supporters if they'd do that.  Now, give it a couple years and ask Obama supporters.  I bet they will.  He's got it.

      Damn it! Now I'm all shook up again!  Have to hunt down a quote for my sig.

      "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Mahatma Gandhi

      by nullspace on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 08:42:49 AM PST

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