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  •  How/why is "Obama the reason"? (5+ / 0-)


    Someone call the girl police and file a report...

    by Page van der Linden on Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 06:49:24 PM PST

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    •  It is a way to reach out to Obama (1+ / 0-)
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      read the other commenters who also see this as the possibility.

    •  Clean slate? n/t (2+ / 0-)
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      mattman, beltane

      "I was so easy to defeat, I was so easy to control, I didn't even know there was a war." -9.75, -8.41

      by RonV on Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 06:51:50 PM PST

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    •  it's a self-contained statement (4+ / 0-)

      like its cousin, "Obama is the answer," the statement that "Obama is the reason" does not require context, explanation, or analysis, but is simply to be accepted.

      All kidding aside, I'm thinking that Ahmadinejad has proven too incendiary to be useful. For instance, Khomeini (sp.?) recently banned Iranian students from going to Gaza and signing up as suicide bombers against the Israeli army--something Ahmadinejad had supported.

      There's also the fact that he's incompetent and people are getting tired of him.

      "In America, the law is king." --Thomas Paine

      by limpidglass on Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 07:01:58 PM PST

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    •  There would have been no point in (8+ / 0-)

      Khatami running if McCain had been elected. The people in Iran are not at all happy with having their well-being imperiled by Ahamadinejad's posturing and bellicosity, never mind the increasingly repressive social climate created by him, especially for women.

      Iran is not Ahamadinejad and more than the US was Bush. There was great relief in Iran when Obama was elected (I have friends there). People feel there's a possibility for ratcheting down the hostilities with Obama in office, and Khatami is just the person who can open that door.

      "Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it." ML King

      by TheWesternSun on Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 08:00:44 PM PST

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      •  Iran is Not Ahamadinejad to Be Sure (0+ / 0-)

        But is it Khamenei?

        The Ayatollahs still wield ultimate power over the President from what I understand.

        Is that your friends' opinion?

        Tax Cuts Are Their Jesus -B. Whitford

        by Indieman on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 01:51:29 AM PST

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        •  Khatami's reforms in the past (1+ / 0-)
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          have been pretty tepid, but still a whole lot more kind than what's happening now.

          The clerics have ultimate control but they aren't a monolithic bloc. His father was a cleric so there are many religious leaders who see him as one of their own. Interestingly, there are many among the hard right who don't like him at all because of his inflationary policies, the sanctions caused by his bellicosity, and his belief that the reappearance of the Twelfth Imam is imminent. (Sounds like The Rapture, no?)

          "Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it." ML King

          by TheWesternSun on Mon Feb 09, 2009 at 10:50:14 AM PST

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    •  because the previous regime rebuffed iran (5+ / 0-)
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      GN1927, corvo, justCal, Terra Mystica, Johnny Q

      when it tried to thaw things out, esp. after 9/11. given the bush admin's relentless hardline position on iran, ahmadinejad was the chess move the clerics took. now that there's the possibility of a partner for detente in obama, allowing a tilt to the reformers now makes sense.

      pretty much any dem would have prompted the same iranian move, although obama prob. moreso because of the rhetorical battle between him and clinton over unconditional talks w/ iran.

      so not because obama is Teh Savior, but because of what his election signified about potential shifts in DC viz new possibilities for diplomacy. iran's wanted normalization for a long time, and they're trying again.

      surf putah, your friendly neighborhood central valley samizdat

      by wu ming on Sun Feb 08, 2009 at 08:49:06 PM PST

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