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  •  Declaring a fertilized egg (none)
    a person is the only path that the anti-abortion folks will accept. Otherwise, state courts will be free to find their own way to a Roe v Wade decision under state consitutions even if the Suprme Court overrules it under the federal.
    •  Heh Heh! (none)
      Okay dude, explain exactly HOW birth control pills work. My priest did when my wife and I were engaged.

      (If you are going to use birth control, find another way, he said.)

      Okay, one package bill.

      No abortion but that also means no in vitro and no birth control pills. I mean we need to be morally consistent, corect?

      •  That is a good idea. (none)
        One of 2 things will happen.  They pass a bill, they get crushed the next election.  They don't pass it and the christians stay home-they get crushed the next election.  its a win-win proposition.
      •  The Morning After pill (none)
        We should press on this big time.  We can put Santorum in our gunsights on this one.
        •  Its the inconsistency. . . (none)
          like crack cocaine vesus powder.

          Rich white kid with powder? Lets look at treatment options;

          Poor black kid with crack? Lock 'em up!

          = = =

          Let Harry Reid do it. He's a Mormon!

          He says:

          "I have long believed abortion and similiar issues were not the government's business even though (like many Catholics) I personally believe such things are immoral. But as Ralph Reed tells us, America has spokeN.

          Therefore I offer this constitutional amendment to define life as beginning at conception and therefore ALL abortion, morning after pills, stem cell research, in vitro fertilization, etc. . . shall become illegal. Nationwide.

          Susan Snowe? Where do you stand?

           

          •  Susan Collins/Olympia Snowe (none)
            Both need to stand and fight for reproducive freedom--or get out of the way!
          •  bluespace is right (none)
            we really really need our dems to do this. force these rethugs out inot the light. it's win-win for us, plus the political whirlwind it will create will drowned out whatever message the rethugs were planning on getting out.

            trouble is, will our "leadership" listen?

            No member of our generation who wasn't a Communist or a dropout in the thirties is worth a damn. Lyndon B. Johnson

            by maskling11 on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 04:27:38 PM PST

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      •  Moral consistency (none)
        Yep, morally consistent, i.e.,

        Birth control (including condoms) is evil and should be outlawed. Therefore more people will die from AIDS.

        Abortion is evil and should be outlawed. Therefore more women overseas in developing countries will lose funding for family planning, hence will die prematurely from lack of hospital care during childbirth.

        This is the Catholic idea of moral consistency.

        •  Thaxter, learn jujitsu (none)
          Screaming at them has failed.

          Besides, no one is morally perfect. Not even Democrats.

          Punish powder the same as crack. No abortion and no birth control pills and no in vitro. All or nothing.

          Otherwise, the Red State types will cherry pick and outlaw abortions for poor kids while rich suburban-ites quietly swallow morning after pills.

    •  FORCE THE ISSUE (4.00)
      Paul Begala did the other day on Crossfire, and the republican had nothing to say.  He looked shocked.  Let the reds see that they have been sold a false set of goods.
      •  Did he really? (none)
        I usually watch Crossfire, but I've been too depressed to watch any news or political shows since Tuesday.  I don't even turn on the TV, for fear of accidentally catching a glimpse of the smirking chimp.

        What exactly did Begala say on Crossfire?

        "We share half our genes with the banana. This is a fact more evident in some of my acquaintances than others." - Robert Mays

        by randym77 on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 03:47:23 PM PST

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